15 Dec 2011, 7:07 pm
I want a cure that would get rid of the negative aspects of AS. Like staring, voice sounding weird, walking funny, crappy social skills, etc.
But the Special interests!? Those can stay lol. 
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15 Dec 2011, 8:29 pm
Ganondox wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
swbluto wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Being autistic is like being a basketball player with a broken leg: They can try to play the game but it's painful and difficult and they always lose. If they avoid the pain by sitting on the sidelines, they're bored silly and depressed watching others happily play. Who the hell WOULDN'T want their broken leg fixed?
More directly, an autistic person is just like any ordinary person except with sensory, emotional and social disabilities. Fix the disabilities, and you get the person they were truly meant to be. Otherwise, they remain a broken human.
So, yes, cure me! God damnit, I want a cure!
More directly, an autistic person is just like any ordinary person except with sensory, emotional and social disabilities. Fix the disabilities, and you get the person they were truly meant to be. Otherwise, they remain a broken human.
So, yes, cure me! God damnit, I want a cure!
What if the basketball player receives a bang on the head and no longer wants to play basketball? Then he wouldn't get bored or depressed, and curing his broken leg would be a waste of time.
What if the bang to the head slowly, but surely, went away? Given enough time, minor injuries are curable and they never have to deal with them again given the person doesn't continue to receive bangs to the head. And people wouldn't continue to receive bangs if they weren't... *stepping over from metaphor land*... autistic.
Guess what? Broken legs heal too!
Broken legs were metaphorical for autism and autism doesn't go away.
I know. Which is why your metaphor failed.
Do you *really* think that? The *point* of the metaphor doesn't crumble just because every possible teeny-tiny, irrelevant detail isn't analogically perfect. If you honestly think that, stop being so fricking autistic.
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I'd like to be NT for just one day, that's all. Only then will I know the truth about autism, I cannot know how I think unless I know personally how others think. I think I'm going to be in for a major disappointment though: I heard that only the autistic can visual animated pictures vividly, and I also heard such a vivid imagination is the greatest gift in the world. I believe that if someone grew up autistic, but was turned NT, they would probably kill themselves as they WOULDN'T get the gifts from being NT and they would loose the gifts from being autistic.
I hear from NTs that people with autism tend to be unimaginative and dull. However, I understand you meant "ability to visualize" which is a bit different and I guess it's a great gift.
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15 Dec 2011, 8:43 pm
15 Dec 2011, 8:47 pm
swbluto wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
swbluto wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Being autistic is like being a basketball player with a broken leg: They can try to play the game but it's painful and difficult and they always lose. If they avoid the pain by sitting on the sidelines, they're bored silly and depressed watching others happily play. Who the hell WOULDN'T want their broken leg fixed?
More directly, an autistic person is just like any ordinary person except with sensory, emotional and social disabilities. Fix the disabilities, and you get the person they were truly meant to be. Otherwise, they remain a broken human.
So, yes, cure me! God damnit, I want a cure!
More directly, an autistic person is just like any ordinary person except with sensory, emotional and social disabilities. Fix the disabilities, and you get the person they were truly meant to be. Otherwise, they remain a broken human.
So, yes, cure me! God damnit, I want a cure!
What if the basketball player receives a bang on the head and no longer wants to play basketball? Then he wouldn't get bored or depressed, and curing his broken leg would be a waste of time.
What if the bang to the head slowly, but surely, went away? Given enough time, minor injuries are curable and they never have to deal with them again given the person doesn't continue to receive bangs to the head. And people wouldn't continue to receive bangs if they weren't... *stepping over from metaphor land*... autistic.
Guess what? Broken legs heal too!
Broken legs were metaphorical for autism and autism doesn't go away.
I know. Which is why your metaphor failed.
Quote:
Do you *really* think that? The *point* of the metaphor doesn't crumble just because every possible detail isn't perfect. If you honestly think that, stop being so fricking autistic.
Quote:
I'd like to be NT for just one day, that's all. Only then will I know the truth about autism, I cannot know how I think unless I know personally how others think. I think I'm going to be in for a major disappointment though: I heard that only the autistic can visual animated pictures vividly, and I also heard such a vivid imagination is the greatest gift in the world. I believe that if someone grew up autistic, but was turned NT, they would probably kill themselves as they WOULDN'T get the gifts from being NT and they would loose the gifts from being autistic.
I hear from NTs that people with autism tend to be unimaginative and dull. However, I understand you meant "ability to visualize" which is a bit different and I guess it's a great gift.
The thing about people with autism being unimaginative and dull is a straight out lie caused by ignorance.
15 Dec 2011, 8:49 pm
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15 Dec 2011, 8:55 pm
15 Dec 2011, 9:02 pm
swbluto wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
The thing about people with autism being unimaginative and dull is a straight out lie caused by ignorance.
No, it's actually true. When NT people talk with each other, they recall associated ideas and often make use of people in order to make an "interesting reply" (To NTs, anyways.) and Aspies don't tend to have this kind of imagination, also called "Social imagination". The fact that many aspies prefer communicating directly instead of indirectly in an imaginative way is testament to this lack of unimaginative communication. Someone goofed up.
However, I understand your point that "social imagination" isn't the same as "imagination". But, when NTs say "imagination", this is what they mean and they're correct from their point of view.
That's not being unimaginative and dull, that's lacking social imagination. Usually they are referring to classic imagination, and they say it out of ignorance as they mistake it with social imagination.
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15 Dec 2011, 9:05 pm
Ganondox wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
The thing about people with autism being unimaginative and dull is a straight out lie caused by ignorance.
No, it's actually true. When NT people talk with each other, they recall associated ideas and often make use of people in order to make an "interesting reply" (To NTs, anyways.) and Aspies don't tend to have this kind of imagination, also called "Social imagination". The fact that many aspies prefer communicating directly instead of indirectly in an imaginative way is testament to this lack of unimaginative communication. Someone goofed up.
However, I understand your point that "social imagination" isn't the same as "imagination". But, when NTs say "imagination", this is what they mean and they're correct from their point of view.
That's not being unimaginative and dull, that's lacking social imagination. Usually they are referring to classic imagination, and they say it out of ignorance as they mistake it with social imagination.
That's true.
Common NT Assumptive Follies:
Social imagination is mistakened for "classic/general imagination".
Social intelligence is mistakened for "General intelligence".
Social competence is mistakened for "General competence".
NTs seem to have a track record for extrapolating everything from the social realm to every realm.
15 Dec 2011, 9:20 pm
swbluto wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
The thing about people with autism being unimaginative and dull is a straight out lie caused by ignorance.
No, it's actually true. When NT people talk with each other, they recall associated ideas and often make use of people in order to make an "interesting reply" (To NTs, anyways.) and Aspies don't tend to have this kind of imagination, also called "Social imagination". The fact that many aspies prefer communicating directly instead of indirectly in an imaginative way is testament to this lack of unimaginative communication. Someone goofed up.
However, I understand your point that "social imagination" isn't the same as "imagination". But, when NTs say "imagination", this is what they mean and they're correct from their point of view.
That's not being unimaginative and dull, that's lacking social imagination. Usually they are referring to classic imagination, and they say it out of ignorance as they mistake it with social imagination.
That's true.
Common NT Assumptive Follies:
Social imagination is mistakened for "classic/general imagination".
Social intelligence is mistakened for "General intelligence".
Social competence is mistakened for "General competence".
NTs seem to have a track record for extrapolating everything from the social realm to every realm.
Yes. If they were correct I'd be a ret*d, boring, useless blob. I might as well be a rock. Actually I'd be worse than a rock, as you can use a rock as hammer. Its easy to see how these misconceptions paint such a negative view of autism.
17 Dec 2011, 10:54 pm
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