I can easily spot other Aspies no matter what

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26 Dec 2011, 9:30 am

Some just are easy to spot. Certainly older unaddepted ones are easy. And i will take that 100$ bet in any it department :)



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26 Dec 2011, 9:33 am

Nope. You need to take a random sample. I will extend the offer to you, too.

I will give you £1,000 on the spot, cash, if you can point out people from a random sample of pedestrians in a busy city who are performing a variety of actions (walking, talking, shopping, waiting for friends, etc). The people you point as being AS must already be diagnosed and be able to prove their diagnosis.

Go on - it's an easy £1000 for you.



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26 Dec 2011, 12:49 pm

That sounds like an interesting skill. I merely attract other strange people but they seem to not be limited to having just AS/Autism as some simply have social phobia, ADD and whatnot. The difference between these non-NTs and normal people seems to be the fact that they don't engage in small talk but instead prefer to talk about specific subjects (yay!). Like, for example, I half-accidentally got a friend who claims to be a sociopath by somehow mentioning a semi-obscure musician while talking to myself that she happened to be a fan of as well. Lot of talking ensued.

I've figured that one trait that seems to unite a lot of aspies is how OCD-y they seem to act at times. I, for example, tend to correct people's grammar a lot (not English, since that isn't my main language) and some actually diagnosed people often fail to understand jokes when they're about their special interests. Also, there's this whole weird skill many of them have where one can take a random subject and completely indulge in all possible information they can find about it.



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26 Dec 2011, 1:12 pm

I can't spot another Aspie, unless they're doing something unusual, but even then it might not necessarily be AS - there are other psychological disorders besides AS, you know. So it could be anything.

I know this may sound VERY strange for a diagnosed Aspie, but I cannot recognise minor body language in Aspies, only NTs. Yes, it does sound weird because it's supposed to be the other way around, but it isn't for me. I notice ''normal'' body language what's most common in most people and everything like that, but Aspies I just don't recognise. I could walk past 10 Aspies and not know if they are Aspies or not - unless they're making typical Aspie-ness obvious to see.


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26 Dec 2011, 1:33 pm

Dreamsofa, I would take up your offer only I live in Ireland, I have many members in the family undx most likely on the spectrum. From parents, siblings, nieces & nephews and also on my husband side.

When you grow up with family on the spectrum you have a lifetime of experiences a lot more than any professional who study for a number of years. I am not dx but feel I am also on the spectrum it just makes sense and answer a lot of questions for me.

Also they failed miserably when it came to dx my son again because he doesn't have the classic look. I also feel my daughter on spectrum but again not listening but that is another battle I will have to face. I have been right with others also but you do have to have contact with them.


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26 Dec 2011, 2:06 pm

Really? Never met one myself.

I never cease to be amazed by the sheer number of aspie's some people claim to know and how easy they are to spot. They must be EVERYWHERE. Not in my world.



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26 Dec 2011, 3:55 pm

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I doubt that you (or anybody who is not, or a specialist specialized in ASD, or someone who go to events specially designed to aspies/auties) will have meet enough aspies in your life to say that you can spot other aspies


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I never cease to be amazed by the sheer number of aspie's some people claim to know and how easy they are to spot. They must be EVERYWHERE. Not in my world.


Well put. Not in my world either. I come into contact with approximately 300 students per week and have done so for about eight years now. That makes thousands of people. In that time, I have come across two diagnosed ASD students - one male and one female.

Also, I used to work as a consultant in disability services for a huge university - in the years I did that, I never had one student on the spectrum. Lots of dyslexics, a handful of schizophrenics, a few with phobias, a number with physical disabilities but no one on the spectrum. I recently asked someone who has worked in this field for years and he has come across precisely one, a woman.

I read somewhere - was it the NAS web site? - that the current estimate is one in 100 males is on the spectrum; that number drops to one in 400 females.



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26 Dec 2011, 4:05 pm

And I'm in England, so it's definitely worth your time. You can fly over and be out the same day. £1000. Yours. Cash. On the spot.

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I have many members in the family undx most likely on the spectrum


And you, your son and daughter are all on the spectrum but undiagnosed, except by you using your exceptional skills of diagnosis? Sorry, but that is simply not credible.

This "I have undiagnosed members of the family on the spectrum so I can tell" stuff is nonsense. I AM on the spectrum - you can't get closer than that - and I can't tell who is and who is not ASD.



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26 Dec 2011, 5:03 pm

Have any of you "Aspie-Spotters" ever had your findings confirmed?

Or do you simply base the validity of your claim on faith alone?

In other words: Evidence, Please?



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26 Dec 2011, 7:40 pm

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Dreamsofa, I would take up your offer only I live in Ireland, I have many members in the family undx most likely on the spectrum. From parents, siblings, nieces & nephews and also on my husband side.

When you grow up with family on the spectrum you have a lifetime of experiences a lot more than any professional who study for a number of years. I am not dx but feel I am also on the spectrum it just makes sense and answer a lot of questions for me.

Also they failed miserably when it came to dx my son again because he doesn't have the classic look. I also feel my daughter on spectrum but again not listening but that is another battle I will have to face. I have been right with others also but you do have to have contact with them.

I've been SURROUNDED by other Aspies my whole life, many of the people on my dad's side are. It runs in the family. Most of my friends are, ever since Elementary school, most of them diagnosed. I know what it's like to take so long to get diagnosed, it literally took me 12 years!! ! That was mainly because where I live the people in charge of diagnosing were AWFUL at their job and lost 12 years worth of papers. Me and most of my friends had to be diagnosed somewhere else.



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26 Dec 2011, 8:41 pm

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We are talking about a condition that around 0.3% of the population have.
that must be an old figure. i think a current estimate is 1 in 150 but i reckon it is higher


I was talking about AS, not about all ASD.



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26 Dec 2011, 11:27 pm

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And I'm in England, so it's definitely worth your time. You can fly over and be out the same day. £1000. Yours. Cash. On the spot.


Will you pay for the transportation, hotel and restaurant costs, as well as other travel costs, as well? How should a hypothetical taker of your bet be able to trust that you'd even meet up for this event you speak of? Furthermore, how should this person be prepared to believe that you'd even have the money ready to give away? Sorry, I'm just wondering. With these questions in mind, I believe no one will take your bet, regardless of how sure they'd be of their abilities.



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27 Dec 2011, 2:30 am

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Have any of you "Aspie-Spotters" ever had your findings confirmed?

Or do you simply base the validity of your claim on faith alone?

In other words: Evidence, Please?


I know a couple of people who I strongly suspect have Asperger's (or some other ASD), and have come to this view after knowing them for some time.

It would be very difficult to get conformation from them especially if they are undiagnosed. What is the diplomatic way to ask somebody if they are autistic?



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27 Dec 2011, 5:05 am

Nope. You can pay for your own expenses. All it would take is a few hours of your time.

Game on.



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27 Dec 2011, 5:06 am

If they are undiagnosed, they are not eligible. This is basic quality assurance.



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27 Dec 2011, 5:08 am

Fnord, they can't provide evidence as all of these so-called Aspies are 'undiagnosed' and their claims are anecdotal and have to be taken on faith.

It's like saying "I believe in God so therefore he exists and I know he exists because I believe in him".