smart people never think that they are smart ?

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23 Jan 2012, 3:26 am

is it true that when you find yourself stupid , you are actually smart, and when you think that you are very smart, you are actually dumb?



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23 Jan 2012, 11:34 am

Hmm tough to say. I consider myself smart most of the time but, say if I get something slightly wrong, I start spiralling into self doubt about everything else I know. I guess smart people know they're smart until they're wrong, at which point they can still be smart but think they're stupid. It comes and goes.



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23 Jan 2012, 11:42 am

People call me smart, but at the same time I'm a high-school drop-out.

Contradiction it seems. (or should I call it contra****tion?)



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23 Jan 2012, 1:15 pm

I'm smart, and I know I'm smart, but I'm still way too hard on myself when I don't meet up to my own, very high standards. I'm not arrogant and I don't particularly enjoy flaunting my abilities.



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23 Jan 2012, 1:44 pm

It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2 ... ger_effect



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23 Jan 2012, 2:09 pm

I am smart at least in specific ways. My conformation is various external validation: people tell me that I am smart using specific examples in scope with the ways that I think I am smart. Then again they could just be stroking my ego... but that is a good thing for me since I operate less effectively when insecure


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23 Jan 2012, 2:27 pm

I think smart people are more aware of their limitations meaning they recognize they have weaknesses.



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23 Jan 2012, 3:58 pm

The smarter you are the more the more you know that you don't know.... if that makes any sense.

Kind of like the whole "you can never know everything there is to be known because to know everything you must know you will never know everything" gig.


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23 Jan 2012, 5:30 pm

Smart people know it's called the Dunning-Kruger effect.



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23 Jan 2012, 9:57 pm

gyaspie wrote:
is it true that when you find yourself stupid , you are actually smart, and when you think that you are very smart, you are actually dumb?


I would characterize this as having clarity of thought. Often, having clarity about what you know or don't know is more important than the mental horsepower a person might possess.



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24 Jan 2012, 9:48 am

An uplifting thread.

According to the Dunning-Kruger effect, I must be at least somewhat smart.



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24 Jan 2012, 11:33 am

I've always saw myself as a dim light among bright lights. I've started feeling that way at Toastmasters and I couldn't take it anymore. I felt childish there, so I quit. I also have my volunteer job on the same day and that tendinitis where my right ankle and heel joins in that area, so I gave myself a choice to quit Toastmasters or my volunteer job, and I get my $100 a month honourarium for volunteering, so I quit Toastmasters. It's a 20 minute jaunt from my place to the clubhouse and that's where Toastmasters takes place. Those people were giving me the shaft for being different and seeing the world in a different way and I was starting to feel inferior, so yeah.


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24 Jan 2012, 11:41 am

I ain't smart at all (it's true though).



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24 Jan 2012, 11:59 am

I am happy to be one of the "stupid because I am smart" people in this thread


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24 Jan 2012, 1:44 pm

I definitely see how this applies to people who don't know what they're doing - they're always the ones who think they know exactly what they're doing. And it's even worse in matters of taste, when you have to deal with one of those people who thinks any mediocre thing - music, food, entertainment, etc - is amazing. No jackass, McDonalds did not just come out with something that is "so good" :roll: