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23 Jan 2012, 10:11 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsMemDwkQng[/youtube]

Some of the threats Jessica Ahlquist has received are viewable here: http://jesusfetusfajitafishsticks.blogs ... stian.html

A lot of the harassment and death threats are from fellow high school students, but there's some evidence that a few Cranston adults have partook in cyber-bullying.

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Jessica Ahlquist's self-description of her experience and insights:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc-ROXgCuxE[/youtube]


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23 Jan 2012, 10:33 pm

Another journalistic masterpiece from The Young Turds. :roll:

If the majority of that school’s student body wanted that banner to stay in place then that’s how it should be left. The majority having to sacrifice for the few, only one in this case, just doesn’t cut it. They should just find a reason to expel her.



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23 Jan 2012, 10:37 pm

Raptor wrote:
Another journalistic masterpiece from The Young Turds. :roll:


Well, don't worry, The Young Turks wasn't the first source I got the story from. If you want sources more appealing to your temperament....

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23 Jan 2012, 10:51 pm

Raptor wrote:
If the majority of that school’s student body wanted that banner to stay in place then that’s how it should be left. The majority having to sacrifice for the few, only one in this case, just doesn’t cut it.

I'll take it that eagle with stripes and stars background avatar of yours is just for show and you don't have any idea what the freedom you advocate is supposed to be.

Schools aren't indoctrination centers. If a billion of students but one wanted the banner, it would still be tyranny. To sacrifice people who don't get along with the views of the mass is the opposite of freedom.


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23 Jan 2012, 10:55 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Another journalistic masterpiece from The Young Turds. :roll:


Well, don't worry, The Young Turks wasn't the first source I got the story from. If you want sources more appealing to your temperament....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVUuihU-goo[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t26c0CbprtM[/youtube]


Not bothering to watch the other two. The story is still the same and I still don't agree with it or anything else the UCLA puts its dirty paws on.



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23 Jan 2012, 10:57 pm

Raptor wrote:
Another journalistic masterpiece from The Young Turds. :roll:

If the majority of that school’s student body wanted that banner to stay in place then that’s how it should be left. The majority having to sacrifice for the few, only one in this case, just doesn’t cut it. They should just find a reason to expel her.


I disagree, it is right to complain and I think faith should be welcome in schools (we have prayer in school in Australia and we are far more secular than the USA) but this behavior on the part of certain people in response to the ruling is wrong and we ought to bravely say so. Everyone, including our opponents, deserve a fair go.


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23 Jan 2012, 11:08 pm

91 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Another journalistic masterpiece from The Young Turds. :roll:

If the majority of that school’s student body wanted that banner to stay in place then that’s how it should be left. The majority having to sacrifice for the few, only one in this case, just doesn’t cut it. They should just find a reason to expel her.


I disagree, it is right to complain and I think faith should be welcome in schools (we have prayer in school in Australia and we are far more secular than the USA) but this behavior on the part of certain people in response to the ruling is wrong and we ought to bravely say so. Everyone, including our opponents, deserve a fair go.


Her whole case is about greedy self-satisfaction. She admitted to being an activist which tells me she was looking for something, anything, to make a case out of. That school would be better off without her; she’s a disruption.



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23 Jan 2012, 11:09 pm

Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick....

On planet reasonable every one of these douchbags on BOTH side would be lined up against a wall.

I hope there's a god to hear my prayer for human extinction. :roll:


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23 Jan 2012, 11:13 pm

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Her whole case is about greedy self-satisfaction. She admitted to being an activist which tells me she was looking for something, anything, to make a case out of. That school would be better off without her; she’s a disruption.


Sure, but what part of 'being an activist' or 'a disruption' makes someone 'not a human being'? Everyone, is entitled to not be bullied, even if, you think they deserve it. If we accept that everyone is made in the image of God, that comes with some bloody responsibilities.

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23 Jan 2012, 11:15 pm

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Her whole case is about greedy self-satisfaction.
Would it make the thing invalid though? Public (read: Her own parents pay taxes that fund it) schools should not indoctrinate students.

If your religion is so crappy that you need to shove it on public schools in order to keep numbers high, it is not our problem.

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She admitted to being an activist
Which is nothing wrong.

The second you come to these forums to promote your political views, you become an activist.


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which tells me she was looking for something, anything, to make a case out of.

Would that change the fact that she did find something? And not just anything but something quite juicy and impossible to defend by any reasonable means (which I guess is the reason you feel compelled to create conspiracy theories in which a 16 years old girl is an evil mastermind). Whatever her intentions, she found something juicy, she found something that was unfair and wrong and she managed to change it.

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That school would be better off without her; she’s a disruption.


Conformity? Is that your American ideal? Really?


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23 Jan 2012, 11:17 pm

I couldn't agree more with 91 (except for the "made in the image of God" part). And, if the gravity of the situation and threats isn't sinking in, here's a sampling of what some of Cranston's "good Christians" have been typing away.

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23 Jan 2012, 11:19 pm

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... -ahlquist/

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… The Rhode Island State Council of Churches will hold a news conference in support of Jessica Ahlquist, the 16-year-old atheist who challenged the Cranston prayer banner, on Tuesday at 2:30 p.m.

The news conference “in favor of tolerance and civility” will include faith leaders in Cranston and throughout Rhode Island speaking out to support Ahlquist’s right to challenge the prayer banner.

The press conference will also condemn the treatment and inappropriate language and words use to describe Ahlquist.


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23 Jan 2012, 11:26 pm

I think what Raptor's trying to say is that a school proselytizing the majority religion of the area is OKAY so long as it's HIS religion. If a predominantly Muslim neighborhood school, on the other hand, put up Islamic prayer banners, Peter King would come to investigate


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23 Jan 2012, 11:33 pm

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I think what Raptor's trying to say is that a school proselytizing the majority religion of the area is OKAY so long as it's HIS religion. If a predominantly Muslim neighborhood school, on the other hand, put up Islamic prayer banners, Peter King would come to investigate


No need to pile anything more onto him, he has enough to sit with. Nothing can be gained by piling onto him, the perception you have of a group you are complaining about; that is what he did wrong, there us no need for you to match him in the effort. If he wants to put up his reasons, then he can, no need to make a straw man to attack further. His emotions were honest, as are yours but we ought not follow them.


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23 Jan 2012, 11:44 pm

91 wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
I think what Raptor's trying to say is that a school proselytizing the majority religion of the area is OKAY so long as it's HIS religion. If a predominantly Muslim neighborhood school, on the other hand, put up Islamic prayer banners, Peter King would come to investigate


No need to pile anything more onto him, he has enough to sit with. Nothing can be gained by piling onto him, the perception you have of a group you are complaining about; that is what he did wrong, there us no need for you to match him in the effort. If he wants to put up his reasons, then he can, no need to make a straw man to attack further. His emotions were honest, as are yours but we ought not follow them.


A grown man gleeing at a high school student's bullying and joining a chorus of calls for her to be "expelled" is tremendously reprehensible and I will call Raptor on out his moral immaturity.


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23 Jan 2012, 11:47 pm

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A grown man gleeing at a high school student's bullying and joining a chorus of calls for her to be "expelled" is tremendously reprehensible and I will call Raptor on out his moral immaturity.


Sure, but it sounds more to me like the sound of one man beating a dead horse.


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