Valentine's Day... NOT AGAIN.

Page 6 of 7 [ 101 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next

Tequila
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 25 Feb 2006
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 28,897
Location: Lancashire, UK

15 Feb 2012, 4:49 pm

Weiss_Yohji wrote:
18 really is too young to be engaged, OliveOilMom. Why the f**k would anyone even get engaged at such a young age? It needs to be banned outright!


Newsflash: In Scotland people can marry from 16 onwards.



Dilbert
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,728
Location: 47°36'N 122°20'W

15 Feb 2012, 4:58 pm

All our holidays and a lot of the traditions were created by someone to either make money or to manipulate and control.

Easter? Bunnies and eggs? Sounds like a fertility thing, yes? That's because it is. Christians adopted a pagan fertility holiday so more people would accept their new religion.

X-mas? Same. Winter solstice was a holiday associated with pagan god Mithras. What better way to get people to convert than to let them keep their holiday!

Diamond engagement rings? That particular tradition was invented in early 1900s by DeBeers family. They realized there were many diamonds in private hands, and pretty soon people would be selling them used for pennies. With so many more diamonds underground to dig up and sell for a premium! So they made a diamond into a family heirloom then people wouldn't sell them and DeBeers would have an infinite market to sell new diamonds to. Evil and brilliant at the same time.

I could continue but I think you got the picture.

It is all about power and money.



TeaEarlGreyHot
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Jul 2010
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 28,982
Location: California

15 Feb 2012, 4:59 pm

Weiss_Yohji wrote:
18 really is too young to be engaged, OliveOilMom. Why the f**k would anyone even get engaged at such a young age? It needs to be banned outright!


My my... aren't we judgmental?


_________________
Still looking for that blue jean baby queen, prettiest girl I've ever seen.


Dilbert
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,728
Location: 47°36'N 122°20'W

15 Feb 2012, 7:17 pm

Quote:
My my... aren't we jealous?


There. Fixed. ;)



TeaEarlGreyHot
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Jul 2010
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 28,982
Location: California

15 Feb 2012, 8:17 pm

:lol:


_________________
Still looking for that blue jean baby queen, prettiest girl I've ever seen.


OliveOilMom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Nov 2011
Age: 60
Gender: Female
Posts: 11,447
Location: About 50 miles past the middle of nowhere

15 Feb 2012, 10:29 pm

Weiss_Yohji wrote:
18 really is too young to be engaged, OliveOilMom. Why the f**k would anyone even get engaged at such a young age? It needs to be banned outright!


Well, he's been her bf since she was 13, and then they started dating, they have been together now for five years and rarely fight, have a great relatonship and are respectful of each other and love each other. He's been living here with her in her little attached apartment for a year. They are going to get married so therefore they are engaged. They plan to wait until they are out of college though, so it's a long engagement. She is graduating high school this year, (honor student, winner of the character award, Miss FBLA, Anchor Club, office aid, library aid, Whose Who of American High School Students) and they are going to get an apartment sometimes this summer. It will be at least two years before they get married, but what in the world is wrong with getting engaged? Especially if you find your perfect match?

They got engaged when he took her on vacation this summer. He took her on a cruise to Jamaica, The Cayman Islands and Mexico. That's the best date ever! When I was 17 the best date I had was a movie, McDonalds, and the mall! So, they got engaged on a cruise. What exactly is wrong with that?

Is it because you are single?

I bet it is.


_________________
I'm giving it another shot. We will see.
My forum is still there and everyone is welcome to come join as well. There is a private women only subforum there if anyone is interested. Also, there is no CAPTCHA. ;-)

The link to the forum is http://www.rightplanet.proboards.com


myth
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Oct 2011
Age: 38
Gender: Female
Posts: 707

16 Feb 2012, 7:51 am

The concept that young people are too immature to have serious relationships is a fairly new one. Even as recently as 2-3 generations ago people were commonly getting married in their teens and starting families prior to 20 years old. They still carry the practice of marrying "young" in many other countries outside the Western world.

The idea that it has to be the way Western society currently views it and everything else is stupid is pretty narrow-minded.


_________________
Non-NT something. Married to a diagnosed aspie.

Nothing is absolute.


hale_bopp
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Nov 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 17,054
Location: None

16 Feb 2012, 8:01 am

There is no "right age" to get married.

It always depends on the people.



ToadOfSteel
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,157
Location: New Jersey

16 Feb 2012, 10:39 am

OliveOilMom wrote:
Weiss_Yohji wrote:
18 really is too young to be engaged, OliveOilMom. Why the f**k would anyone even get engaged at such a young age? It needs to be banned outright!


Well, he's been her bf since she was 13, and then they started dating, they have been together now for five years and rarely fight, have a great relatonship and are respectful of each other and love each other. He's been living here with her in her little attached apartment for a year. They are going to get married so therefore they are engaged. They plan to wait until they are out of college though, so it's a long engagement. She is graduating high school this year, (honor student, winner of the character award, Miss FBLA, Anchor Club, office aid, library aid, Whose Who of American High School Students) and they are going to get an apartment sometimes this summer. It will be at least two years before they get married, but what in the world is wrong with getting engaged? Especially if you find your perfect match?

They got engaged when he took her on vacation this summer. He took her on a cruise to Jamaica, The Cayman Islands and Mexico. That's the best date ever! When I was 17 the best date I had was a movie, McDonalds, and the mall! So, they got engaged on a cruise. What exactly is wrong with that?

Is it because you are single?

I bet it is.


I just have one question... how do these people find each other? I asked a girl out at age 14, and was summarily rejected. I used to be a happy guy with great self-esteem... but I was rejected. I could be living that life you mention... but I was rejected. I thought I was good enough to be a human being... but I was rejected.

And no, nothing has changed since then. I'm still a sub-human piece of s**t...



OliveOilMom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Nov 2011
Age: 60
Gender: Female
Posts: 11,447
Location: About 50 miles past the middle of nowhere

16 Feb 2012, 12:50 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
Weiss_Yohji wrote:
18 really is too young to be engaged, OliveOilMom. Why the f**k would anyone even get engaged at such a young age? It needs to be banned outright!


Well, he's been her bf since she was 13, and then they started dating, they have been together now for five years and rarely fight, have a great relatonship and are respectful of each other and love each other. He's been living here with her in her little attached apartment for a year. They are going to get married so therefore they are engaged. They plan to wait until they are out of college though, so it's a long engagement. She is graduating high school this year, (honor student, winner of the character award, Miss FBLA, Anchor Club, office aid, library aid, Whose Who of American High School Students) and they are going to get an apartment sometimes this summer. It will be at least two years before they get married, but what in the world is wrong with getting engaged? Especially if you find your perfect match?

They got engaged when he took her on vacation this summer. He took her on a cruise to Jamaica, The Cayman Islands and Mexico. That's the best date ever! When I was 17 the best date I had was a movie, McDonalds, and the mall! So, they got engaged on a cruise. What exactly is wrong with that?

Is it because you are single?

I bet it is.


I just have one question... how do these people find each other? I asked a girl out at age 14, and was summarily rejected. I used to be a happy guy with great self-esteem... but I was rejected. I could be living that life you mention... but I was rejected. I thought I was good enough to be a human being... but I was rejected.

And no, nothing has changed since then. I'm still a sub-human piece of sh**...


They met because he was a friend of my older son. He's 3 1/2 years older than her, but that's about right for teenagers. He started coming over and hanging out with my son when he was 15. Of course back then she was a little 11 yo annoying kid and they didn't let her hang around. When she was close to 13 she was much more mature and started hanging around with my older son playing video games and watching movies etc in his room with his friends. He had the attached apartment then. It's got a living area, sleeping area, bathroom, walk in closet and it's own entrance from outside, but it's also got a door coming into the laundry room. It was originally a two car garage. When she was about 13 or so they started talking and they were a "couple" then they started going on dates, etc. He's a genuinely nice boy, and we had no problem with that. So, thats how they met. He was her first bf and she was his first real gf.

Most people aren't that lucky. Lots of people get turned down. It happens. Once, twice, even a few dozen times doesn't mean that you will never find somebody. I dated a good bit back when I was single, but I also got turned down a good bit too. You have to keep trying. Don't go into a relationship as if this is your one chance at finding the right person. Don't even think that far ahead. Take it as it comes. Keep trying. It eventually happens.


_________________
I'm giving it another shot. We will see.
My forum is still there and everyone is welcome to come join as well. There is a private women only subforum there if anyone is interested. Also, there is no CAPTCHA. ;-)

The link to the forum is http://www.rightplanet.proboards.com


Thom_Fuleri
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Mar 2010
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 849
Location: Leicestershire, UK

16 Feb 2012, 1:38 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
I just have one question... how do these people find each other? I asked a girl out at age 14, and was summarily rejected. I used to be a happy guy with great self-esteem... but I was rejected. I could be living that life you mention... but I was rejected. I thought I was good enough to be a human being... but I was rejected.

And no, nothing has changed since then. I'm still a sub-human piece of sh**...


Oh, Toady... one rejection does not reflect badly on you. It reflects badly on them for spurning you.
A hundred rejections, now - that might suggest you're doing something wrong.

I can tell you that going into dating feeling you're not worth it will guarantee failure. Women can sense things like that with their witchy powers. The guidos that go in thinking they're fantastic, however, are frequently successful for the same reason. Their self-belief scrambles the psychic radar. Learn to love yourself, even if it feels like BS (it will at first). The weird thing is that it gets easier over time. You really DO start to love yourself.



Weiss_Yohji
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 258
Location: Delaware

16 Feb 2012, 2:35 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
Weiss_Yohji wrote:
18 really is too young to be engaged, OliveOilMom. Why the f**k would anyone even get engaged at such a young age? It needs to be banned outright!


Well, he's been her bf since she was 13, and then they started dating, they have been together now for five years and rarely fight, have a great relatonship and are respectful of each other and love each other. He's been living here with her in her little attached apartment for a year. They are going to get married so therefore they are engaged. They plan to wait until they are out of college though, so it's a long engagement. She is graduating high school this year, (honor student, winner of the character award, Miss FBLA, Anchor Club, office aid, library aid, Whose Who of American High School Students) and they are going to get an apartment sometimes this summer. It will be at least two years before they get married, but what in the world is wrong with getting engaged? Especially if you find your perfect match?

They got engaged when he took her on vacation this summer. He took her on a cruise to Jamaica, The Cayman Islands and Mexico. That's the best date ever! When I was 17 the best date I had was a movie, McDonalds, and the mall! So, they got engaged on a cruise. What exactly is wrong with that?

Is it because you are single?

I bet it is.


They've got their whole f*****g lives ahead of them! Why throw it all away by getting married? Are they that f*****g stupid? Why is this allowed to happen? >:(

@ everyone else: I had a near-meltdown at work on V-Day when one waiter went on about his girlfriend. I yelled at him directly telling him to stop lording it all over me, break up with her, and give me all of his confidence. I'd love nothing more than to rip that f**k to pieces with my own hands for being paired up like that. The very sight of them together makes me sick with rage! The fact that others get all the confidence to pick up girls when I'm single and socially awkward makes me so mad I can't see straight. Why did I ever have to be born with AS? Why couldn't I be NT? WHY THE f**k DOES EVERY GIRL I COME ACROSS EITHER HAVE TO BE TAKEN, HAVE KIDS, OR BOTH? WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO? WHY CAN'T IT BE EASIER? I NEED A RELATIONSHIP, NOT HIM! NOT ANYONE ELSE!

Living in an area where there's nearly nothing but party girls around doesn't help, either.



Tequila
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 25 Feb 2006
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 28,897
Location: Lancashire, UK

16 Feb 2012, 2:38 pm

You... have serious issues. I'm amazed you can hold a job with that attitude.



hale_bopp
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Nov 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 17,054
Location: None

16 Feb 2012, 2:48 pm

There's something seriously wrong.

You can't keep going on like this. It's not normal, it crosses the line of psychosis.
You really should go and get some full checks done on your physical and mental health. I'm not trolling, I'm actually being very serious.

It sounds like you at least need to be on an anti anxiety drug and anti depressive drug. I'm speaking from experience, here.



OliveOilMom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Nov 2011
Age: 60
Gender: Female
Posts: 11,447
Location: About 50 miles past the middle of nowhere

16 Feb 2012, 3:20 pm

Weiss_Yohji wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
Weiss_Yohji wrote:
18 really is too young to be engaged, OliveOilMom. Why the f**k would anyone even get engaged at such a young age? It needs to be banned outright!


Well, he's been her bf since she was 13, and then they started dating, they have been together now for five years and rarely fight, have a great relatonship and are respectful of each other and love each other. He's been living here with her in her little attached apartment for a year. They are going to get married so therefore they are engaged. They plan to wait until they are out of college though, so it's a long engagement. She is graduating high school this year, (honor student, winner of the character award, Miss FBLA, Anchor Club, office aid, library aid, Whose Who of American High School Students) and they are going to get an apartment sometimes this summer. It will be at least two years before they get married, but what in the world is wrong with getting engaged? Especially if you find your perfect match?

They got engaged when he took her on vacation this summer. He took her on a cruise to Jamaica, The Cayman Islands and Mexico. That's the best date ever! When I was 17 the best date I had was a movie, McDonalds, and the mall! So, they got engaged on a cruise. What exactly is wrong with that?

Is it because you are single?

I bet it is.


They've got their whole f***ing lives ahead of them! Why throw it all away by getting married? Are they that f***ing stupid? Why is this allowed to happen? >:(

I married my husband when I was 22. I've been married 25 years and we have four kids and a grandbaby. I'm happy. Marriage isn't the end of your life. Also, they are only engaged at the moment. They aren't marrying until after they both finish college and that will be in two to four years. If he decides on sticking with a two year degree for now, it will be in about two years. It takes about a year to plan a good wedding and she hasn't even started nor has she given ideas any thought. Right now it's just engaged. Some people are engaged up to five years you know. How do you get the idea that it's bad to marry in your early twenties? What would you have them do, just be alone instead because she's 18 and he's 22?

@ everyone else: I had a near-meltdown at work on V-Day when one waiter went on about his girlfriend. I yelled at him directly telling him to stop lording it all over me, break up with her, and give me all of his confidence. I'd love nothing more than to rip that f**k to pieces with my own hands for being paired up like that. The very sight of them together makes me sick with rage! The fact that others get all the confidence to pick up girls when I'm single and socially awkward makes me so mad I can't see straight. Why did I ever have to be born with AS? Why couldn't I be NT?

I have AS and have been married 25 years to an NT and had an active dating life before that. The boy with AS who tipped me off to mine is now married for two years, to a teacher. He and his wife are trying for a baby. AS doesn't mean you can't socialize. It just means that it's harder to learn and remember the "rules".

WHY THE f**k DOES EVERY GIRL I COME ACROSS EITHER HAVE TO BE TAKEN, HAVE KIDS, OR BOTH? WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO? WHY CAN'T IT BE EASIER? I NEED A RELATIONSHIP, NOT HIM! NOT ANYONE ELSE!

If I was the waiter, I would have reported you to the boss and if I were the boss I would have fired you. Those statements go far beyond the "Dude, I don't have a girlfriend. For the love of God stop rubbing it in!" You sound violent and unstable. I don't mean that as an insult, but you need some serious help before you end up in a cell for the next 15 - 20 years of your life and your only girlfriend will be a nonconsensual relationship with Sparkplug, your cellie. If that's what you want, then keep going the way you're going.

On a more serious note, frustration, especially frustration that damages your already low self esteem can cause anger and jealousy that manifests in violent ideation or actual violence. Once you obsess over violent fantasies it becomes easier to cross the line and actually harm someone. Obsession can make you start to believe that you are owed something, they have taken it from you, and it's within your right to take it from them or punish them for it. Your views of right and wrong, truth and fiction, reality and fantasy get skewed. That's when you turn into someone who is criminally insane. Being criminally insane does not mean you will be put in treatment instead of prison. It just means you will be put in a tougher, more violent area of the prison.

I'd seriously get some psychiatric help. Not only could they help you deal with your anger and jealousy issues, they could help you deal with your incorrect assessments of what is yours and others, and actual vs perceived needs. They could help you with your self esteem, self image, and ability to relate to others.

Until you get that kind of help, and change the underlying beliefs, attitudes, and thoughts of injustice, you will be alone. Even if you think you cover them well when you talk to women, you don't. We have radar and can pick up on that kind of dangerous instability.


Living in an area where there's nearly nothing but party girls around doesn't help, either.


Party girls are easy. Go for one of them. They may not be what you want, but it's something in the meantime and it can help your self confidence so that you can get the kind of girl you do want.

Wear condoms.


_________________
I'm giving it another shot. We will see.
My forum is still there and everyone is welcome to come join as well. There is a private women only subforum there if anyone is interested. Also, there is no CAPTCHA. ;-)

The link to the forum is http://www.rightplanet.proboards.com


Weiss_Yohji
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 258
Location: Delaware

16 Feb 2012, 4:42 pm

Back in high school, I felt like I had to find "the one" before I graduated or my life would be invalid. Fast-forward to today and I'm still single and even more frustrated than I was then. Now it feels like if I don't have someone now, there's something wrong with me. Every third person around me is paired up and it's making me seethe with rage. Why must I lag behind? Why is it so scary to get out there?

I've had that whole "find the right woman" crap drummed into my head since childhood. All these things with one-night stands and the like are a sudden shock now. As for party girls, more than half the ones around here are all into hard drugs and s**t, which is the last thing I need.

Whenever I encounter a woman (Usually at work, since that's the only place where I really meet anybody), I immediately end up seeing her as a potential GF unless she has kids. People keep telling me to approach a girl as a friend first, but then I might get friendzoned! Could that possibly be any more counter-intuitive? I've even tried looking at PUA stuff (Mystery Method, Alpha Male, David DeAngelo, etc.) and I've found nothing that really covers those of us on the autism spectrum. It's all written with NT men in mind. Why does it have to be so hard to understand?