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16 Mar 2012, 8:43 am

What's the difference between them, really?

I hear about that hyperactivity is a key difference; a symptom that changes with transition into adulthood but I'm not sure what's meant by that.

The few things I read leave me confused which probably makes sense because my ADHD evaluation got nowhere with the focus on which symptoms I have that people my age with ADHD usually have, until I was handed a questionnaire for kids about the DSM criteria that listed most things I have.

Of course I learn to not jump over tables or crawl and sit beneath them as I did in childhood but I can't see how that changes anything about my symptoms or hyperactivity. For others here who experienced their ADHD changing a lot more, can you tell what these changes were and what makes Adult ADHD so different?


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16 Mar 2012, 9:00 am

From my impression of America, childhood ADHD is mostly a culture of emotionally stunted adults dealing with normal children, not an actual condition.



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16 Mar 2012, 9:45 am

fraac wrote:
From my impression of America, childhood ADHD is mostly a culture of emotionally stunted adults dealing with normal children, not an actual condition.


garbage.

ADHD is a real condition.

the main difference between childhood and adult is that as an adult you learn to cope with the hyperactivity. you may notice things like repeated body movements like furiously tapping a pencil, flapping feet, drumming fingers or other more noticible things.


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16 Mar 2012, 10:00 am

TheDarkMage wrote:
fraac wrote:
From my impression of America, childhood ADHD is mostly a culture of emotionally stunted adults dealing with normal children, not an actual condition.


garbage.

ADHD is a real condition.

the main difference between childhood and adult is that as an adult you learn to cope with the hyperactivity. you may notice things like repeated body movements like furiously tapping a pencil, flapping feet, drumming fingers or other more noticeable things.


It is indeed real. And extremely frustrating condition to live with un-medicated. Omg I just spell-checked and edited the post I quoted.... oh boy... Yeah so, back to the topic. Adhd is real. I'm hoping Stratterra works.



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16 Mar 2012, 10:17 am

Fraac, so funny.

Don't be hating on America, we won you know...
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16 Mar 2012, 10:23 am

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From my impression of America, childhood ADHD is mostly a culture of emotionally stunted adults dealing with normal children, not an actual condition.


Pure rubbish. You have no idea what you're talking about.

ADHD has been extensively studied and has mountains of empirical evidence backing it up.



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16 Mar 2012, 10:33 am

Sora wrote:
What's the difference between them, really?

I hear about that hyperactivity is a key difference; a symptom that changes with transition into adulthood but I'm not sure what's meant by that.

The few things I read leave me confused which probably makes sense because my ADHD evaluation got nowhere with the focus on which symptoms I have that people my age with ADHD usually have, until I was handed a questionnaire for kids about the DSM criteria that listed most things I have.

Of course I learn to not jump over tables or crawl and sit beneath them as I did in childhood but I can't see how that changes anything about my symptoms or hyperactivity. For others here who experienced their ADHD changing a lot more, can you tell what these changes were and what makes Adult ADHD so different?


In adult ADHD, inattentive symptoms may be more prominent than hyperactive symptoms - hyperactivity will mostly become restlessness, fidgeting, racing thoughts, etc. The outward symptoms overall seem to diminish, but the overall impairment does not always. Some people actually outgrow it by 30 or so - I forget the exact percentage - but most do not.



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16 Mar 2012, 10:47 am

Verdandi wrote:
fraac wrote:
From my impression of America, childhood ADHD is mostly a culture of emotionally stunted adults dealing with normal children, not an actual condition.


Pure rubbish. You have no idea what you're talking about.

ADHD has been extensively studied and has mountains of empirical evidence backing it up.


Subtract the rate of childhood ADHD in Britain from the one in America and you have the cultural delusion component. I bet it's more than half.



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16 Mar 2012, 11:33 am

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Subtract the rate of childhood ADHD in Britain from the one in America and you have the cultural delusion component. I bet it's more than half.


Sorry, I don't believe that. I have not seen any compelling evidence in favor of this.



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16 Mar 2012, 11:44 am

Then you take the bet.



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16 Mar 2012, 12:28 pm

well im 33 and have Asperger with ADHD. i only found out 5 months ago. i can assure you it is very real. my daughter has the same and my mum who is 64 has it.


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16 Mar 2012, 1:03 pm

ADHD is definately a condition. I grew up with somebody who had ADHD. He was a very hyperactive child, his mum had to put him in the bath to calm him down because he would get so overexcited over nothing.

Now he is 22, his ADHD hasn't gone away, and it never will. Everybody grows up but still have the same condition. I was different as a child to what I am now, but I still have AS. I've just learned more coping strageties, and my social skills are have improved, and I've developed self-control and self-awareness. Obviously this varies from Aspie to Aspie, but this is just personally speaking. So my friend who has ADHD is different to what he was when he was a child, but still has ADHD. He has to take medication before he goes to bed to help him sleep, otherwise he lies awake for hours, possible all night, no matter what diet he takes. But the medication is the only thing that helps him get a good night's sleep. And there are other symptoms he typically has that won't go away.


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16 Mar 2012, 1:30 pm

fraac wrote:
Then you take the bet.


I don't do bets.



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16 Mar 2012, 10:53 pm

MY understanding is only 20% of cases goes away for the 80% all the symptoms get a bit better but the hyper active component tends to disappear also in those cases where they where violent as a kid the violent tendencies disappear but not the others to as great an extent this is from a psycocalgy text book



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16 Mar 2012, 11:30 pm

fraac wrote:
From my impression of America, childhood ADHD is mostly a culture of emotionally stunted adults dealing with normal children, not an actual condition.


1m US children misdiagnosed as ADHD Here
1 in 10 US children diagnosed with ADHD Here
1 in 20 school age UK children diagnosed with ADHD Here