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26 Mar 2012, 9:01 pm

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I don't think ADHD has anything good associated with it, very much unlike autism.


I disagree a bit.
ADHD has Hyper-focus! That can be good.
It also seems that many people with ADHD are highly creative.

Other than that I agree.


Pfft, hyperfocus. I haven't hyperfocused for days and when I do it's either just news articles or getting an idea to do something, look for it and then give up half way through looking for it.

Hyperfocus to me is something that isn't planned because most of my day is planned. It's something that I just decide to do and then get stuck on for hours, and nothing comes good out of it and I'm left feeling exhausted.

I'm creative but can't organise myself to even get started on a project.

I'm cranky today. Need meds!


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26 Mar 2012, 9:59 pm

pensieve wrote:
Ecl713 wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
I don't think ADHD has anything good associated with it, very much unlike autism.


I disagree a bit.
ADHD has Hyper-focus! That can be good.
It also seems that many people with ADHD are highly creative.

Other than that I agree.


Pfft, hyperfocus. I haven't hyperfocused for days and when I do it's either just news articles or getting an idea to do something, look for it and then give up half way through looking for it.

Hyperfocus to me is something that isn't planned because most of my day is planned. It's something that I just decide to do and then get stuck on for hours, and nothing comes good out of it and I'm left feeling exhausted.




I'm creative but can't organise myself to even get started on a project.

I'm cranky today. Need meds!


Good description. ^
As an aside, I remember you posted some time ago you had sluggish cognitive tempo, but it lifted. One can only know how hellish that is by direct experience. auntblabby, Moog and Marshall have posted experiences with it. You kinda outgrow it, but I still experience a strong trait of it on my downswings.

The ADHD hyper focus happens, and it can be good or bad. There's no control like autism with a "special interest." It looks like one because I can go for years on something, but it gets displaced by something else. It's random. If there are any redeeming qualities, they are circumstantial.

Say, work is my hyperfocus and I'm "obsessed" with that and it's good. Say now, something comes along and it will entirely displace that ( work) and you are distracted now.

You can't 'will it' in a certain direction.

But, I've always felt that Schizophrenia was number 1, Bipolar #2 and ADHD # 3 in terms of Hell on earth.

It could be worse.


There is one strange feature I've noted with this executive dysfunction: It removes you, or it de-natures you from people. It's hard to explain it, as peoples' experiences are 3 dimensional, but you can feel a displacing away from this in realtime people activities, such as being in a mall, in crowds, etc.

There is a loss in this '3 dimensional feel' and you don't have the usual instincts that everyone has. It's like you are starting life anew for the first time and it's as if nothing really sticks but bounces off and away from you. My mother would say many times: "every day seems like it's your first day on Earth."

I don't think anyone can be fully "socialized" or tamed by having this condition.



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27 Mar 2012, 1:19 am

Sora wrote:
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I don't think ADHD has anything good associated with it, very much unlike autism.


If that's true, the association of ADHD with countless good attributes might be a somewhat German phenomenon.


I meant the scientific/empirical perspective on ADHD, which lays ADHD out as nearly entirely deficit. Lots of people promote a view of ADHD as a gift, but I think they're largely mistaken.



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27 Mar 2012, 4:27 am

I have asperger and add



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09 Jun 2012, 2:54 pm

I was misdiagnosed with ADHD as a child.



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09 Jun 2012, 3:12 pm

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I have AS but I'm not ADHD. Sometimes I wonder if I have got ADHD though, but it might be wishful thinking.


I'm sure I read that there are many symptoms of AS which are common in ADHD too.

I don't have ADHD.



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09 Jun 2012, 3:58 pm

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ADHD here is commonly treated like wearing glasses, meaning people will say "no, ADHD isn't a disorder". The majority of those who have it or whose children have it will claim that it isn't a disability because you can learn around it if you try hard enough and then live normally as an adult. Except for "severe cases", every time I ask that someone says that the "most severe cases" probably don't fare as well (whatever a "most severe case" is).

The positive view is basically nice but it gets a bit overboard at times.


I know I already responded to this post and it is a bit old, but I just noticed this bit and I don't think I did the first time:

One of the features of ADHD is that you can't really "learn around it." You can build up strategies to help work around it, but if the strategies go, so does the working. A lot of people like to believe that they were able to "work around it" according to "intelligence" or whatever, but the reality is that it simply doesn't work this way. This is because ADHD directly impacts the same neurological functioning that one would use to "work around it."



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09 Jun 2012, 4:05 pm

I was officially diagnosed by professionals who didn't seem to have the slightest doubt that I have aspergers.

As for the fakers: I have come to the conclusion that some people think that aspergers is a synonym for general insanity, neurosis, psychosis and for being delusional. Well folks, that is not the case! There is nothing wrong with being insane and my sympathy goes out for the people who suffer from but it hasn't got much to do with aspergers.

Aspergers is nothing more than a mild form of autism. A neurological condition that people are born with!



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09 Jun 2012, 4:06 pm

I don't think that there are many people who have asperges and ADHD at the same time. There is a link between aspergers and ADHD though.



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09 Jun 2012, 4:50 pm

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I don't have ADHD but I have PDD-NOS. It seems like ADHD is common in autism, but I don't have it. I could see myself having the hyperactive part but not the attention deficit part.

I have some of the symptoms (impulsivity) but don't seem to have enough for a diagnosis.


Exactly the same with me, just that I have HFA instead of PDD-NOS.


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09 Jun 2012, 5:35 pm

While ADHD does run in my family, I do not have it. I have classic autism. With all the psychologists and psychriatrists I have seen throughout my life, none have even suggested ADHD for me.


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09 Jun 2012, 6:26 pm

I don't have ADHD. Depression and AS. I don't take meds for my depression, however.