Did Jesus or His followers start a new religion?

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Certainly - we believe Jesus was of dual nature. As both God and man, he had all the natural plumbing as anyone else, and thus took as many "holy s**ts" as needed.
But you know, according to North Korean lore, Kim Jung Ill never defecated or urinated, along with being born atop a holy mountain. And this is coming from an atheistic state!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

That explains why Kim Jung Ill's sh*t don't stink.

While we are at it, do you think Joshuah's sh*t smelled bad or did it have the odor of sanctity? Like Mother Miriam's corpse after she died. Never rotted, never smelled and was ultimately transported to Heaven when it stands at the Left Hand of Her Son.

ruveyn

Have you sold all that you own and given the proceeds to the poor? Do you pray in a closet?

Do you donate your holy precious blood to those who need it?

I do the latter 12-15 times a year. I have twice the platelet density of normal humans. When I go to the blood center in New Brunswick New Jersey the staff there line up on both sides of the corridors and wave palm leaves at me. They refer to my blood product donations as The Precious Blood of Ruveyn.

ruveyn

There are Israeli Arabs who are good. "Palestinians" was a word stripped of its actual definition by Arafat in 1964, expressly in order that he could use it to imply that Arabs own the land of Israel, and thus use political pressure to push the Jews out. Hadrian mockingly named Israel "Palestine" in 135 AD after the Jews' biblical enemies, the Philistines (the word was translated from the Greek to Latin), and the famously anti-Semitic British chose to keep calling Israel "Palestine" until the 20th century. The only true "Palestinians" who ever lived were the Philistines, who were ethnic Greeks, not Arabs. (The word means "people of the sea", as the Greeks were known.) Hadrian was a Jew-murdering emporer, who, like Arafat did later, used the word "Palestine" (in Arafat's case "Palestinian") for powerful and far-reaching anti-Semitic purposes.


Many of them say they are America's enemies, Christians' enemies, and Jews' enemies. So you're mistaken.
It would be accurate to say, "Not all Arab Israelis are our enemies -- some of them works peacefully and even cordially with Israeli Jews -- but most who choose to call themselves Arafat's invented adjective 'Palestinians' -- which deliberate implication is false because most so-called "Palestinians" originate from the surrounding Arab countries -- are our enemies.

Please, let's not do the positive half-truths today. Tell it like it is.

Jesus was not created. He was with God in the beginning.

I suspect Jesus' s**ts stank as much as anyone else'.
As for Marry joining Jesus at his left hand - that's Catholic theology, not Protestant. We believe she was a mere woman who had been given an amazing blessing - then died and rotted.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

While he was still with the Father was he doing dumps in heaven?

ruveyn

Nope. Hadn't taken on his dual nature, yet.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

We don't need to express our personal anger with references to defecation and rotting. We can do better than that. Jesus's body was human, He ate, He drank, He bled when hurt. He felt pain and thirst. This terminology does nothing but pull us off-topic, and if we are heading towards a Gnostic 'Was His body physical/solid/human', then someone needs a new thread. We are grown- ups and have behaved like it up to this point. We need to get back there.
Mary's/Maryam's/Miriam's divinity is also another topic, so start another thread.
We had avoided the anger and insults and language that have kept MANY WP members out of PPR, and I am disappointed that this formerly adult and respectful discussion isn't, at this point.

Sylkat

Yes, yes, I agree. Ruveyn and I were only having a little humorous banter.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer