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ellora
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08 Apr 2012, 8:18 am

I continually seek to understand the nature of existence. Is anyone else here interested in such things? I try to approach everything with a clear and objective perspective. I examine even my own subjective expierence in a detached and logical fashion. Ive found myself most drawn to quantum physics, meditation, buddhism/ athiest views, and philosophical literature, amidst a myriad of other sidetracks and diversions... psychology, neurology, parapsychology, some mathmatics,.....I fear sometimes that my interests are so varied and scattered that I am getting nowhere, yet, it also seems that there is some underlying connection in all of this, and if I continue to simply follow my own interests and conclusions, all will be well. So, just wondering if there are any other philosophers here?



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08 Apr 2012, 9:18 am

Yes, you sound like me thirty years ago! I'm still seeking the nature of existence and now have my own understanding which is founded largely on science / Buddhism and atheism.


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08 Apr 2012, 9:48 am

Wonderful! Very nice to meet you, in a sense.
I do feel that seeking truth is a lifelong and ongoing persuit which consists in an attitude of understanding and attention. I am continually led back to these views/ topics. I am at once infinate and insignificant. Do you have any thoughts on collective consciousness, quantum field theory, or reincarnation? Just throwing out a few arbitrary starting points here. I wish to understand a great many things, though I suspect that I may only need to understand one. What intrigues you?



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08 Apr 2012, 11:26 am

Welcome to Wrong Planet.

I was almost born pondering the nature of life, existence, the universe, is there such a thing as God. It has been a life long passion. At age 19 I became a bhikku and led a monastic life for just over a year; then went to university to study a science degree. Many years later, loosely speaking, I'm now a Zen Buddhist / atheist / scientist. I don't follow a particular religion and have no religious beliefs. Consciousness itself is something that has fascinated me all my life. I'm now aware (primarily as a result of meditation) that my real essence is consciousness itself - however it is not my consciousness, but rather consciousness illuminates the thoughts, memories and emotions that pass through this beings brain. There is no "me", no "I". This is very difficult to put into words or explain. The following poem by Thich Nhat Hanh expresses the same thing more eloquently:

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Please Call Me by My True Names

Don't say that I will depart tomorrow --
even today I am still arriving.

Look deeply: every second I am arriving
to be a bud on a Spring branch,
to be a tiny bird, with still-fragile wings,
learning to sing in my new nest,
to be a caterpillar in the heart of a flower,
to be a jewel hiding itself in a stone.

I still arrive, in order to laugh and to cry,
to fear and to hope.

The rhythm of my heart is the birth and death
of all that is alive.

I am the mayfly metamorphosing
on the surface of the river.
And I am the bird
that swoops down to swallow the mayfly.

I am the frog swimming happily
in the clear water of a pond.
And I am the grass-snake
that silently feeds itself on the frog.

I am the child in Uganda, all skin and bones,
my legs as thin as bamboo sticks.
And I am the arms merchant,
selling deadly weapons to Uganda.

I am the twelve-year-old girl,
refugee on a small boat,
who throws herself into the ocean
after being raped by a sea pirate.
And I am the pirate,
my heart not yet capable
of seeing and loving.

I am a member of the politburo,
with plenty of power in my hands.
And I am the man who has to pay
his "debt of blood" to my people
dying slowly in a forced-labor camp.

My joy is like Spring, so warm
it makes flowers bloom all over the Earth.
My pain is like a river of tears,
so vast it fills the four oceans.

Please call me by my true names,
so I can hear all my cries and my laughter at once,
so I can see that my joy and pain are one.

Please call me by my true names,
so I can wake up,
and so the door of my heart
can be left open,
the door of compassion.


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