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Classical Liberalism or Modern Liberalism
Classical Liberalism 44%  44%  [ 4 ]
Modern Liberalism 11%  11%  [ 1 ]
Or neither 44%  44%  [ 4 ]
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Joker
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22 Apr 2012, 6:34 pm

Which one best suit you politically?

Classical Liberalism suits me the best.



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22 Apr 2012, 6:36 pm

I thought you said you liked fascism? The two are basically implacably opposed to one another.

Classical liberal for me by far.



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22 Apr 2012, 6:49 pm

I am partial to certain aspects of both but also not necessarily aligned directly with either

Tequila wrote:
I thought you said you liked fascism? The two are basically implacably opposed to one another.


I think Joker is somewhat of a dilettante


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22 Apr 2012, 6:50 pm

Modern liberalism. Classical liberalism is contradictory, and modern liberalism is an attempt to fix it. The problem with classical liberalism is that it is only concerned with freedom from. But people don't actually care about freedom from, they only care about freedom to. The two concepts are often allied, but pure classical liberalism leads you into absurd situations where you have lots of freedom from and very little freedom to. (For example, you may be free to apply to any job you like, even though there is no job that will accept you.)



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22 Apr 2012, 6:52 pm

Declension wrote:
The problem with classical liberalism is that it is only concerned with freedom from. But people don't actually care about freedom from, they only care about freedom to. The two concepts are often allied, but pure classical liberalism leads you into absurd situations where you have lots of freedom from and very little freedom to. (For example, you may be free to apply to any job you like, even though there is no job that will accept you.)


Not if you align classical liberalism with other ideologies as well, and compromise. No one ideology on its own has all the answers, and that's why I'm not a pure classical liberal. I'm just sort of on that wavelength.



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22 Apr 2012, 6:52 pm

Vigilans wrote:
I am partial to certain aspects of both but also not necessarily aligned directly with either

Tequila wrote:
I thought you said you liked fascism? The two are basically implacably opposed to one another.


I think Joker is somewhat of a dilettante


To be honset I have changed my views on facism I am a going back to my liberal views more and more I like classical liberalism the most it suit me and appeals to me I am a indepent with mostly liberal views but I am a right winger on law and order and the military.



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22 Apr 2012, 8:10 pm

Neither--I'm a democratic socialist (not a Socialist International supporter, but someone who believes in public ownership of the means of production). Throw some environmentalism in there too. Modern liberalism (social liberalism you'll hear it called) is all right I guess, but only in the lesser of two evils sense.