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07 May 2012, 12:10 pm

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People do whatever they can to advance their careers.


Not me apparently. :?

I have to wonder what her views on affirmative action and the like are, if she is in support then what she did shows a high level of hypocrisy and lack of character. This is after she lied and said she wasn't wealthy or part of the '1%', when reality she's worth $14.5 and lives in a $5 million dollar house. She seems like the poster child of a 'limousine liberal'.



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07 May 2012, 1:49 pm

You may be young and still short of life experiences. It is only dishonest people who get ahead. No-one ever got rich by simply doing what one was told.

Speaking of which--I wonder how she got so rich, on a professor's salary?



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07 May 2012, 2:00 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
You may be young and still short of life experiences. It is only dishonest people who get ahead. No-one ever got rich by simply doing what one was told.

Speaking of which--I wonder how she got so rich, on a professor's salary?


Vladamir Putin grew up poor and became the president of Russia.

Margaret Thatcher grew up poor as a child and became the longest-serving (1979–1990) British prime minister of the 20th century.

Hu Jintao the president of peoples republic of China grew up very poor.

Welath having something to do with how people get politcal power is overrated so what you said is in fact a fallacy.



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07 May 2012, 2:10 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
You may be young and still short of life experiences. It is only dishonest people who get ahead. No-one ever got rich by simply doing what one was told.

Speaking of which--I wonder how she got so rich, on a professor's salary?


Considering she said 'nobody gets rich on their own', I'm curious as well.

According to her tax returns she makes about $700k+ a year from Harvard, 'consulting', book royalties. She also owns $8 million in mutual funds and IBM stock.

Her husband is also a prominent Harvard professor so I imagine he is worth quite a bit of money himself.



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07 May 2012, 5:06 pm

Apparently this is causing enough of a stink that the C word of New England Democratic politics is starting to be whispered... Coakley.


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07 May 2012, 6:46 pm

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I'm an enrolled member of the Cherokee Tribe [the main group in Oklahoma] and can say that she is really no different than a lot of others out there. and unless she has an ancestor on the tribal rolls taken a little over a century ago there probably is no way to really determine the truth of her claim. The government took a count of the tribal members back then and those who participated in it are the only ones whose descendants can officially be called Cherokee today. There are people back then who did not want to participate and I believe their descendants have a very hard time proving their Indian ancestry, even in cases where they obviously *are* Indian.

1/32 may not seem like much, but I have heard of tribal members with even less [something like 1/512.] The Cherokee tribe [especially the group that was moved to Oklahoma] was always very pro-assimilation and intermarriage with whites was commonplace. The principal Chief of the tribe [our equivalent to President, basically] during the removals was only 1/8 Cherokee. The Cherokee have never had any kind of minimum blood quantum, which is why they are one of the larger tribes.

I think if she does not have an ancestor on the tribal roll [and they do not mention which of the three officially recognized tribes of Cherokee in the US she is claiming] she should not claim it.

I'm 5/16 Cherokee by the way, although apparently I also have another tribe, but the Bureau of Indian Affairs only allows a person to "officially" be one tribe. I do believe I could enroll in the second tribe, it would depend on each tribe's rules., although I believe it is allowed because my grandfather is enrolled in both tribes.


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A genealogist traced Warren's Native American heritage to her great-great-great grandmother, who listed herself as Cherokee in her 1894 marriage license.



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07 May 2012, 6:49 pm

Looking at her Wikipedia report, she seems extremely well qualified.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren

She even taught Sunday school.



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08 May 2012, 1:13 am

i worked with someone who had a similar option as Elizabeth Warren, but the Canadian disclosure question is a little different for employment with the federal government. on the application and in the hiring process, the forms ask if a person is a member of a VISIBLE minority, which would imply that the person LOOKS african-Canadian or asian or native Canadian or something.

my coworker was partly white and partly black (don't know the proportions), and she appeared quite caucasian. so she actually asked us (her fellow new hires) whether she should disclose herself as a minority, considering she did not LOOK like she was a member of a minority. it's a touchy question.


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08 May 2012, 7:06 am

What strange wording.

What happens if you are an African Albino?

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08 May 2012, 10:46 am

DC wrote:
What strange wording.

What happens if you are an African Albino?

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An albino person of African descent does not look appear European because of their lack of pigment. An albino person in general regardless of orgin could probably be considered a 'visible minority' on their own in my opinion.