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08 May 2012, 11:59 pm

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I occasionally have anxiety that I'm manufacturing all of my difficulties and there's really nothing diagnosable about me.

But it's harder and harder for that particular thought to take hold because I know more about myself.


Me too Miss Kitty.


It makes no sense to even think that with all of the empirical observations and evidence I have at my disposal, especially those made by other people, and yet my brain loves running off with worst case scenarios, and not having any real disabilities that explain why I fail at everything is a worst case scenario for me, I guess. Knowing I have explanations for everything is one of my bulwarks against clinical depression, and it's often inadequate without undermining it.


You're probably like me. I spent many years trying to convince myself I'm "normal" by doing thing that were unnatural and uncomfortable. I finally just gave up and accepted myself for who I am, but I still fall back into that old pattern of thinking sometimes. When that happens I think about all the research I've done and remember the chaos that was my life of trying to fit in. It's like an alcoholic who hasn't had a drink in years and suddenly gets the idea, "maybe I'm not an alcoholic, 1 drink won't hurt".



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09 May 2012, 12:42 am

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Yes, it is sometimes a tough call, but in my case it is pretty clear. Besides my own research and online testing, a relative came across Asperger's info on her own, and immediately believed I have it. By the time she told me, I had already found out on my own, and told her she was right.

You just have to remember, every one has good days, regular days (their own version of regular), and bad days. So our condition varies from day to day, and even sometimes, from moment to moment.


I don't know how accurate online tests are, but they all tell me I'm probably on the spectrum, that I've got some mild form of PDD or that I've got Asperger's. Also, I know someone who's a forensic psychologist. She gets to assess children, adolescents and young adults for all kinds of things (including Autism and Asperger's). I told her that I think I might have AS. She said that she had noticed things in me (not making real eye contact, repetitive behaviour, taking jokes literally, some anxiety etc) since the first time she met me. So apparently there's something there.

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Yes. When I first heard of AS I thought "I'm just introverted and geeky" and sometimes I still have doubts about that. There is no single trait that I can point to and say "this definitely makes me an Aspie". But the combination of all of them, along with my childhood memories, is enough to convince me that for all practical intents and purposes it's very likely I have AS.


This.



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09 May 2012, 3:37 am

I don't doubt that I have AS. I enjoy my special interests too much for me not to be an Aspie.


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09 May 2012, 3:46 am

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I don't doubt that I have AS. I enjoy my special interests too much for me not to be an Aspie.


Might be a stupid question (I'm quite new to this, hence all my questions), but what exactly is the difference between a special interest and a "normal" interest? When I'm interested in something I get completely absorbed in it. I read books, watch documentaries and movies, buy things, think about it all the time, talk about it a lot, read forums, read everything I can find online etc. Except for when I'm working, watching TV-series and except for the two evenings a week I hang out with my boyfriend all I do is spending time researching the interest. I still think about it when I'm working, watching TV-series and hanging out with my boyfriend (also talk a lot about it when hanging out with him). Would you say that's a special interest?

EDIT: And I've only got one interest at a time. Right now for example, I'd say my interest is AS and finding out whether I've got it or not.



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09 May 2012, 6:46 am

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You're probably like me. I spent many years trying to convince myself I'm "normal" by doing thing that were unnatural and uncomfortable. I finally just gave up and accepted myself for who I am, but I still fall back into that old pattern of thinking sometimes. When that happens I think about all the research I've done and remember the chaos that was my life of trying to fit in. It's like an alcoholic who hasn't had a drink in years and suddenly gets the idea, "maybe I'm not an alcoholic, 1 drink won't hurt".


I actually didn't realize many of these things were different about me. I thought that many of them were common to everyone, but that most people just coped better than I did. I did have some things that were uncomfortable and draining to sustain in order to function socially, and I've dropped some of those. But determining that I really did have unusual neurology, processing, and perceptions was a paradigm shift for me, and sometimes I wonder if I am fooling myself.

And then there are times like last night when I remarked to my oldest friend (known him since 1997) that I dislike unexpected change, and he said "a little bit, yeah." So I asked him if he was exaggerating and he said "Yes." I have a lot of moments like that with people I know. It's rather amazing that people around me noticed so many things over time but I didn't know. I have bits and pieces of what people told me over the years that fits into the overall structure of me being autistic, I didn't process those things as fundamental differences so much as quirks or personality things.



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09 May 2012, 7:49 am

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I actually didn't realize many of these things were different about me. I thought that many of them were common to everyone, but that most people just coped better than I did. I did have some things that were uncomfortable and draining to sustain in order to function socially, and I've dropped some of those. But determining that I really did have unusual neurology, processing, and perceptions was a paradigm shift for me, and sometimes I wonder if I am fooling myself.
I believe this is a bit of a paradigm shift for anyone, whether they are formally diagnosed or just strongly believe they have an ASD. It presents a very new, unique way of potentially understanding the underlying cause of so many previous difficulties.

It certainly is an added tool for one's personal introspection.


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09 May 2012, 7:56 am

I didn't think it was unique to me, just that I had to seriously reconsider a lot of my assumptions about myself, and as it turned out, about autism. Nothing seriously negative on that latter part, just realignment.



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09 May 2012, 8:33 am

Never. I am a text book case - there could be no doubt


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09 May 2012, 8:40 am

rebbieh wrote:
Might be a stupid question (I'm quite new to this, hence all my questions), but what exactly is the difference between a special interest and a "normal" interest?
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EDIT: And I've only got one interest at a time. Right now for example, I'd say my interest is AS and finding out whether I've got it or not.


I've been wondering that myself and even started a topic on that very question (What makes an interest a "special interest"?), which clarified things... somewhat. See also: Is Asperger's itself anyone's special interest?

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not having any real disabilities ... is a worst case scenario for me


There's something ironic about that. I mean, I know what you're saying and even identify with it to a degree. It just sounds-counter intuitive that the worst case scenario is not having a disability.



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09 May 2012, 8:56 am

I doubted my AS diagnosis when I first found out about it, because, at that time, I only knew the stereotypical "textbook" case of AS. It wasn't until I got the diagnosis confirmed by an AS professional AND I had read many books and saw that this really was me.


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09 May 2012, 9:06 am

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There's something ironic about that. I mean, I know what you're saying and even identify with it to a degree. It just sounds-counter intuitive that the worst case scenario is not having a disability.


I know. I wanted to qualify that statement a dozen different ways, but it's all basically, with my history, if I'm not disabled, then what the hell is wrong with me?



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09 May 2012, 9:21 am

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Do you ever doubt you have AS?

i do not think in terms of what i am. it is not important to me whether i have AS or not even though i am diagnosed AS. i am locked into a solitary awareness, but i am not self absorbed. i almost never think about myself, and whatever i see is what i see no matter how my brain can be described by others who probe it.
i would be me no matter what i am called, so what i am called can not change who i am.

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I sometimes have moments when I feel "normal". They are very rare and they don't last for long, but for a few minutes I doubt I have AS. I'm not officially diagnosed yet so I'm not 100 % sure I have it, but most of the time I very much think I do (and I've got an at least 7 pages long list pretty much backing it up, written in font size 10). It's really confusing actually. It sort of scares me. Anyway, do you ever doubt you have AS?


i do not know what normal is, and i proceed to behave with respect to my own idea of what is real, and i rarely encounter anyone who relates to me, but that is not a problem to me considering that otherwise, it would increase my mental taxation in order to frame a transcription of my ideas so as to be generally understood by them.



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09 May 2012, 11:21 am

When people first suggested to me that they think I have Asperger's Syndrome I majorly doubted it because I knew people with Asperger's Syndrome and my symptoms weren't nearly as obvious as theirs. I was actually in denial at first until I ran into major problems in life and started second guessing myself and remembering the suggestions that those people made. Then I started researching about Asperger's Syndrome and found out that you can still be pretty high functioning and started getting second thoughts. Also, I didn't know a lot about autism and I didn't really think of it as a disorder with a broad spectrum, I didn't know much about it.



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09 May 2012, 6:16 pm

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I'm the opposite to you there. Most animals try to attack me.

I guess I give off some odd body language or something.


Well if I saw you coming with a gun I'd be narkie to :)

I thought we had a sepcial rapport with animals , their the only things I can relate to sadly :?


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09 May 2012, 7:02 pm

Only to wonder if I am more likely a classical autistic. Seriously, I never feel normal for very long. But my overt quirks are easier to conceal at 50 than they were at 15!

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09 May 2012, 7:29 pm

Verdandi wrote:
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There's something ironic about that. I mean, I know what you're saying and even identify with it to a degree. It just sounds-counter intuitive that the worst case scenario is not having a disability.


I know. I wanted to qualify that statement a dozen different ways, but it's all basically, with my history, if I'm not disabled, then what the hell is wrong with me?


I was terrified that my assessment would come back not autistic. To me, coming back how I expected, with some form of high functioning autism, was right, and coming back without that was telling me I was just a broken NT. (Something else lifelong would have been acceptable, but hard to accept, something developed would have just been me being broken, like my social anxiety is me being broken 'cause it was developed from too much bullying.)