Abs are uneven
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I am starting to actually get some abdominal muscles, and it is becoming more obvious that they are uneven. The abs on my left side appear to be an inch or inch an a half lower than my right ab muscles. I googled it and it says that it is genetic. Frustrating.
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Well you can go with that if you want.
Least you got low enough bodyfat to see them. That's what counts. Everyone has abs, just not everyone has low enough bodyfat to see them. Generally it's like 10ish%. But yeah, for some reason, abs are like, really important now. "Swole" is out and "toned" is in body fashion wise.
Oh well, just the way the cookie crumbles. Least you can see them.
Could be worse, you could have an HGH gut like Ronnie Coleman.
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Well you can go with that if you want.
If you want abs, deadlifts and front squats.
startingstrength.com/articles/abs_rippetoe.pdf
Great article by Mark Rippetoe on abs.
For you, the planks are working, as your abs are doing their isometric supporting job.
I personally have decently developed obliques, so much so they're able to be seen even at my doughyish 20% BF. For me, what developed them was skating. I also do lots of slideboard. My first time on an oblique twist machine, I maxed it out for 10 reps. I'm thinking because the obliques are compressed when you do skating strokes... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1gMXNO3iYE There's an example of a slideboard, it's pretty close to ice skating stroking. I do it with dumbells in my hands sometimes, too.
Of course, power lifting isn't the best way to achieve the best definition though, I have found that correct diet mixed with high intensity training and specifically targeting the core area is best, I don't know if dirty bulking and power lifting would achieve what the thread creator is reach his personal goal.
Here's my abdominals from a couple of photos taken around 2 weeks ago.

Here's Mark Rippetoe when he was young, I can really spot the definition in his abdominal area.

That's Anatoly Pisarenko, a super heavyweight Olympic lifter, pretty much the best one ever. He competed in super heavyweight and looked more or less like a bodybuilder. He actually didn't gain weight with lots of fat like most super heavies. As far as him having abs, when you lift heavy like that, you breathe deep and fill your abdomen full of air to brace yourself, so thus, belly during the lift. You gotta admit, for a super heavy, he's not bad looking.

That's Mark Rippetoe in the 80s, not gonna refute your point about Mark Rippetoe and abs, but hey.
Here's some OL lifters with abs, though, generally in the sub 200lb classes.


Maybe they do crunches, maybe they don't, some coaches recommend them and some don't. As far as obliques, though, they definitely got them doing heavy lifts. Most bodybuilders don't want a figure like that, as it messes with "v-taper" but I personally would rather look more "square" like that. The only bad thing I can say about compounds for ab development is, because you fill your gut with air to do the lifts (ie, breathe in heavily) and you're always bracing your abs forward, you can develop an weightlifter gut, basically, sorta like a milder version of Ronnie Coleman's HGH gut. I'll have to see how I turn out once/if I get down to 10%ish BF, but that can happen. A way to remedy that is do chest vacuums, but...meh.
The guy with the shaved head has fairly good definition but that may due to different factors but I don't think that's the type of body one would typically achieve from power lifting on it's own or the image that power lifters usually promote. Again, it depends on personal goals and what he wants to achieve.
A person could say body building is the most ideal form of training for aesthetics but wouldn't be most ideal for someone that is a martial artist or dancer so it really depends on what type of sport, level of fitness or look the person is trying to achieve.
A person could say body building is the most ideal form of training for aesthetics but wouldn't be most ideal for someone that is a martial artist or dancer so it really depends on what type of sport, level of fitness or look the person is trying to achieve.
Typically the people in lower weight classes have pretty good definition. Why? Because it's based on weight class. Fat is dead weight. Those pictures are Olympic lifting, though, not powerlifting. Even powerlifting, it's the same, though. Keep in mind, some of them in their weight classes are within ounces of going into the next class, so obviously at the elite level diet is quite important.
http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online ... re_fatties
That's Dave Gulledge, he's a powerlifter that competed at 325, and dieted down to 265 after an injury.
DG: I've never lifted a car off a child or anything. In the gym I really just squat, bench, deadlift, and do good mornings.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dennis76.htm
As far as image, I can agree with you, however....that's an entirely different discussion. But, what I'm saying is, the abdominal muscles are worked very well off compound exercises, whether or not you eat and gain/don't lose bodyfat is your prerogative.
Not to stir the pot too much more, but bodybuilders in the off season are usually pretty doughy. http://elitekinetics.files.wordpress.co ... commit.jpg Lee Priest off season vs contest.
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Honestly, if I see a picture of abs that ARE even, I immediately think it's a fake. The human body is formed initially in the womb as two halves, which join together, and therefore we all have a mismatch of features of the body which repeat on left and right sides. That includes ears, eyes, teeth, arms, legs, and ab muscles. As with anything natural, some people have a closer match than others from side to side, but none is perfectly balanced if actually measured out.
Charles
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