Coin a word for discrimination of people on the spectrum!

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29 Aug 2012, 4:49 am

Thank you Cornflake. My googling is casual. Your is methodical compared to mine. This is the sort of use I have seen:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WFWJ ... 22&f=false

As for what I mean by formal, we could start with a dictionary entry (specifically English) as probably the most formal recognition of widespread conventional use of a word. From there, literature about autism such as the reference in the book linked above are what I meant. I was looking for something beyond the informal use of the term on discussion forums for example.

Anyhow, I apologize again for distracting from the purpose of the thread, but you have helped me find the reference to "autist" that I knew I had seen! It was in fact Uta Frith's translation of Hans Asperger's original 'Autistic Psychopathy' in Childhood where I saw the use of "autist" referencing the Greek root as an explanation of the use of the term. Here it is in case anyone cares to see it:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HoRX ... 22&f=false

Anyhow, the best explanation I can come up with for why "autist" isn't used in any of the books or articles I've read about autism and Aspergers would be that "autist" implies the personification of the condition since it is the noun form where as "autistic" is an adjective used to describe a person who has the condition. It seems to me that nouns with the "ist" suffix on the end in English tend to describe someone engaged in a particular occupation or activity, or someone who is an adherent to certain ideas or beliefs. Some examples would be pianist, typist, pessimist, and racist.


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29 Aug 2012, 8:57 am

nonneurotypical wrote:
It seems to me that nouns with the "ist" suffix on the end in English tend to describe someone engaged in a particular occupation or activity, or someone who is an adherent to certain ideas or beliefs. Some examples would be pianist, typist, pessimist, and racist.
That's exactly how I feel about "autist" too: it's not a good word because it implies that, after years of study and practicing autism, I am now an accomplished autist. :?
I'm assuming it finds some favour because it's very similar to "artist", with the positive implications of that word.


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29 Aug 2012, 10:06 am

http://scholar.google.com/

Type in Autist:

It is used throughout several publications (articles and books) as a descriptor.

It very well may be a cultural difference found primarily in the UK.


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29 Aug 2012, 10:17 am

This is one definition of Autist that struck me as ironic....

http://digitalcommons.butler.edu/cgi/vi ... 2autist%22

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29 Aug 2012, 12:36 pm

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This is one definition of Autist that struck me as ironic....

http://digitalcommons.butler.edu/cgi/vi ... 2autist%22

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How ironic if this is true, "The word autist, an old term for a psychiatrist, furnished an
additional clue." :lol:


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30 Aug 2012, 2:46 pm

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I have come to the conclusion that there should be a word that describes the discrimination, hatred, bias and maltreatment (including the denial of services) towards people on the spectrum.

I cannot escape the notion that what is happening today is as severe as racism, anti-semitism and homophobia (homophobia has already been acknowledged as such in my country).

I invite you to coin a word that rivals anti-semitism in its meaning regarding hatred to people on the spectrum. It should be appropriate and fitting within how language functions when it comes to forming new words of course.


It already exists. It's called ableism.



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16 Sep 2012, 10:09 am

I heard the word ableism already existed, but what about neuro-discrimination?


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16 Sep 2012, 11:18 am

Ableism is a great word. The real problem is that I've never read or heard anyone in the media mention this word in relation to anti-ASD prejudice. It's most likely an academic thing at this point, just like deconstruction used to be. Maybe coming up with a "sexier" term will garner some attention. Here goes...

anti-Autitude

unautible / unaspible

NT-centric / neurotypical-centric

disrespectrumism, from the newly coined disrespectrum

or just plain old Smug Arrogant A-holes



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16 Sep 2012, 8:30 pm

We could use the term mentalism. Mentalism is the discrimination and oppression against someone because of a mental trait or condition they have, according to Wikipedia. Some examples Wikipedia gave are ADHD, bipolar, schizophrenia, and personality disorders. If we used the term ableism, it would indicate that we are disabled and unable. I would say that we are differently-abled instead. I'm an Aspie, so I'm thinking more in terms of high-functioning autism. Low-functioning autism could be considered more disabling, but I believe there are still some beneficial traits that come with it. High-functioning autism seems more like a personality disorder than a disability to me, though a lot of the problems that contribute to this instability are created by NTs. I'd use the term mentalism to describe the discrimination and oppression against anyone on the spectrum, just to be more generic.



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16 Sep 2012, 10:40 pm

Spectrumphobia


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06 Sep 2021, 9:46 pm

MiLK wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that there should be a word that describes the discrimination, hatred, bias and maltreatment (including the denial of services) towards people on the spectrum.

I cannot escape the notion that what is happening today is as severe as racism, anti-semitism and homophobia (homophobia has already been acknowledged as such in my country).

I invite you to coin a word that rivals anti-semitism in its meaning regarding hatred to people on the spectrum. It should be appropriate and fitting within how language functions when it comes to forming new words of course.


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07 Sep 2021, 3:00 pm

I think most NT`s are understanding enough when I tell them I have Asperger’s.

From what I can see most of the problems arise in misunderstanding’s when autistic adults do something that’s socially taboo or misinterpreted as potentially nefarious.

For example, the ID autistic man who stops to chat to children innocently, since talking to unknown children in the street is taboo for NT adults anyone seeing this would interpret this as potentially predatory.

The same for the autistic man who stares at the woman he`s attracted to on the bus not knowing of an appropriate way to talk to her. The woman`s first thought would naturally be is he going to rape me?

I believe member WhaleTuune used to speak of these paradoxes.

The problem is there is a potential double bluff since some, though small number of paedophiles and rapists have been autistic men and there is no neon sign saying autistic above our heads.

So is it realistic for NT`s to be expected to suspend thousands of years of in-built evolutionary self protections by ignoring red flags in the behaviour of strangers in the hope that it may be innocent?


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