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13 Aug 2012, 6:13 pm

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I was very surprised by Mr. Ryan but in a good way. I was hopping for Bobby Jindal but that is only because I didn't think of Mr. Ryan. I believe that Mr.Ryan is a very proactive person; a "go-getter" if you will. I agree with his solution to Medicare and his no non- sense approach to taxation; take out all of the deductions and go with a flat tax. I believe that he could become the next Regan; If you are a Vice President at 28 years old you have a pretty promising career ahead of you.


If Ryan has his way, the elderly will be given a lump annual sum that would pay for three months of care, then for the rest of the year, they'd be on their own - and that doesn't even cover the disabled. That doesn't make Ryan sound particularity appealing to me.

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Apparently he now has a more watered down "bi-partisan" version that still includes a public option which claims to be identical to the current Medicare program while offering a choice of "more competitive" private options as well. I really doubt private competition will lower bureaucratic overhead as contrary to popular understanding, most of the excess cost in our healthcare system isn't the bureaucratic overhead or even insurance company profits. It's also stupid to try and treat the problem of rising Medicare costs as something separate from rising costs in the healthcare system as a whole. It's all part of the same basic pot.

The biggest problem with the system is lack of preventative care and market forces that encourage treatment seeking and procedures that aren't necessarily based on efficacy. The market mooches off the sick in order to make money rather than acting to prevent people from getting sick in the first place (since the latter would obviously cut into their profits). The other problem is the government/private regulatory interfacing of insurance is more bureaucratically expensive than just having a single payer or public option and keeping the public and private insurance as separate independent tiers the way most other countries do.



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13 Aug 2012, 10:11 pm

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All in the Family. :)


Geez! He does look like a Romney spawn!

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13 Aug 2012, 11:14 pm

Too big a smile.



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14 Aug 2012, 2:40 am

romney arrogantly believes the election is already in the bag, so he doesn't even have to try to appeal to anybody but the hardcore tea party base who will come out in droves to vote for him. or at least that is what he thinks. but i'm afraid that he might've calculated correctly.



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14 Aug 2012, 3:00 am

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romney arrogantly believes the election is already in the bag, so he doesn't even have to try to appeal to anybody but the hardcore tea party base who will come out in droves to vote for him. or at least that is what he thinks. but i'm afraid that he might've calculated correctly.


I sure hope he miscalculated. Or else Inuyasha will come back and rub our noses in his side's big win. :lol:

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14 Aug 2012, 9:39 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
romney arrogantly believes the election is already in the bag, so he doesn't even have to try to appeal to anybody but the hardcore tea party base who will come out in droves to vote for him. or at least that is what he thinks. but i'm afraid that he might've calculated correctly.


I sure hope he miscalculated. Or else Inuyasha will come back and rub our noses in his side's big win. :lol:

as i said in my thread about it, romney must believe that the combo of republican voter suppression in 31 states plus their ownership of diebold and other voting tabulation machine companies, is going to swing the vote their way, so he doesn't have to worry about anything. and i'd rather not think about the WP poster you mentioned, i'd rather think about happy things.



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14 Aug 2012, 10:44 pm

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romney arrogantly believes the election is already in the bag, so he doesn't even have to try to appeal to anybody but the hardcore tea party base who will come out in droves to vote for him. or at least that is what he thinks. but i'm afraid that he might've calculated correctly.


I sure hope he miscalculated. Or else Inuyasha will come back and rub our noses in his side's big win. :lol:

as i said in my thread about it, romney must believe that the combo of republican voter suppression in 31 states plus their ownership of diebold and other voting tabulation machine companies, is going to swing the vote their way, so he doesn't have to worry about anything. and i'd rather not think about the WP poster you mentioned, i'd rather think about happy things.


Agreed.

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19 Aug 2012, 4:51 pm

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He's 40, but that still is still young for a potential vice-president.

Yeah, sorry about that. Not entirely sure what I was thinking when I posted that he was 28.



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19 Aug 2012, 8:00 pm

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He's 40, but that still is still young for a potential vice-president.

Yeah, sorry about that. Not entirely sure what I was thinking when I posted that he was 28.

i have known of 9 year olds that had more compassion in their little pinkies than 40 year old ryan ever had in his whole body.



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19 Aug 2012, 8:05 pm

Romney is going for the "JFK factor". Ryan is already infinitely better than Grand Poobah Biden. Biden and Frank Lautenberg from New Jersey were prime examples of how how hard it is to unseat an incumbent in US politics despite large ineptitude, I have not met anyone from Delaware who actually liked Biden.

FUN FACT: Ryan used to drive an Oscar Meyer Weinermobile :lol: No, I'm serious, he really did.



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19 Aug 2012, 9:34 pm

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Romney is going for the "JFK factor". Ryan is already infinitely better than Grand Poobah Biden. Biden and Frank Lautenberg from New Jersey were prime examples of how how hard it is to unseat an incumbent in US politics despite large ineptitude, I have not met anyone from Delaware who actually liked Biden.

FUN FACT: Ryan used to drive an Oscar Meyer Weinermobile :lol: No, I'm serious, he really did.


But at least Biden was born with a beating heart in his chest - - more than Ryan can claim.

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19 Aug 2012, 11:45 pm

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FUN FACT: Ryan used to drive an Oscar Meyer Weinermobile :lol: No, I'm serious, he really did.

would this be illustrative of the peter principal in action?



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22 Aug 2012, 2:37 pm

auntblabby wrote:
romney arrogantly believes the election is already in the bag, so he doesn't even have to try to appeal to anybody but the hardcore tea party base who will come out in droves to vote for him. or at least that is what he thinks. but i'm afraid that he might've calculated correctly.

I really don't believe that the Tea Party members will come out in the same droves that first time voters did in 2008. They have likely been voting their entire life given their disposition to share their opinions. I also believe that the extremists (tea-partiers and the the occupy everywhere group) are over represented by the media. I do not believe that the media attention they get is proportionate to the number of people involved in the groups. What remains to be seen, is whether or not Obama will get the same first (or second for that matter) voters that he did back in 2008. I'm not sure that he will given his track record but I believe that a number or racially motivated voters will in fact vote for him. Primarily Hispanics for his immagration policy but also African-Americans given that 96% of them voted for Obama in 2008.