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10 Sep 2012, 1:08 am

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Ca2MgFe5Si8O22OH2 wrote:
that had absolutely nothing to do with supremacy or "agitation", wasn't actually remotely near ground zero, and wasn't a Mosque either, it was a cultural center that had no affiliation whatsoever with extremists.

Someone's telling lies again, aren't they? Park51 (or, rather, "Cordoba House" as was - quite significant, that, as it refers to the Islamic Caliphate of Cordoba in the Middle Ages in the southern Iberian peninsula - i.e. the conquering of part of the West) is across the road from Ground Zero. See here:


It's right on top of the Ground Zero site!

Why couldn't they have built it elsewhere in Manhattan, like the Upper West Side, Harlem, the east side or wherever else? I'm sure there are many, many sites within the city other than that one. The fact that they chose that one specifically strikes many people as triumphalism and gloating. If Jewish or other extremist religious terrorists (that don't constitute a majority religion in the country) had committed a similar atrocity, they would accept that siting a centre so close to that terrorist atrocity is enormously inappropriate and that a better site can be found in order not to polarise and divide. Not the people responsible for "Park51" though, oh no. The extreme sense of entitlement from elements of Islam is quite astonishing. They should have had the sense to build it somewhere else - even elsewhere in Manhattan would have been better. Why that site specifically? Any decent person would have realised the obvious sensitivities by that site and, not wanting to cause offence, sited it quite a distance away.

Ca2MgFe5Si8O22OH2 wrote:
and since some of the victims of the attack were Muslims,

So? Most victims of Islamist violence, intolerance and terrorism are fellow Muslims (many of whom are trying to oppose the terror and fear imposed by these scripture-sodden pedlars of hate and bigotry). Does that not make Islamic terrorists Islamic terrorists?

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building a mosque nearby is not more a provocation than building a chapel would be.

Yes it is, and you know it is. I'm sure if this was a Muslim country (quite a few of whom don't allow "religious freedom" to anyone other than Muslims, by the way - it's Islam or death in Saudi Arabia and other countries) and a terrorist attack by Christians on the local population, no Christian site would be allowed anywhere near the site of such terrorism. In fact, I strongly suspect that there would be a wide-scale burning of churches and the mass murder of Christians.

Gloating? Seriously? I need to look up more information to make a proper case against this, but still, try to be a bit more reasonable.

There is nothing Islamic about terrorism. Sure, you can find stuff in the Qur'an implying otherwise, but only if you're looking for it or don't know the context.

Okay? Aren't we supposed to be better than that? It's more of a provocation if you choose to take it that way. What would building a chapel nearby mean, in your opinion?

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Muslim activists were sticking it to the rest of us.

I find Muslims in New Jersey (where I live) offensive enough.

I know a great place for them to build their center --- Mecha.


What's so offensive about them?


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10 Sep 2012, 7:08 am

there are people on here that are verbally far more extreme than any muslim i ever met, and that includes the ones i met in turkey while i worked there.

to be honest i also think in action that there are people on here that are far more extreme than the average muslim.

yes there are groups of muslims that habitually engage in terror, in africa there are christian groups that do the same, with child soldiers.

subsets cannot be used to argue over the whole.

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10 Sep 2012, 8:33 am

Islamophobic means "fear of Islam", and is a term hurled at anyone who dares criticize a belief system which makes very, very big claims for itself.



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10 Sep 2012, 11:45 am

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You could even become an atheist again a week later.

You really couldn't do that in most countries ruled by Sharia.

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10 Sep 2012, 3:35 pm


A phobia (from the Greek: Phóbos, meaning "fear" or "morbid fear") is, when used in the context of clinical psychology, a type of anxiety disorder, usually defined as a persistent fear of an object or situation in which the sufferer commits to great lengths in avoiding, typically disproportional to the actual danger posed, often being recognized as irrational.

In other words, does Islamophobia even exist? Where is the disproportional or irrational part?

Antisemitism, on the other hand, at least makes some sort of logical sense, as it is an integral part of both Lutheran Christianity and Islam.... Of course, both religions have only BS reasons why this hatred is justified...


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12 Sep 2012, 5:25 pm

mikecartwright wrote:
Do any of you know any Muslims or have any Muslim Friends or CoWorkers or Married to a Muslim ?

Yes. I grew up near a Muslim family. Their son, Timur, acted and dressed just like any "Westerner" except when he entered the house. Then it was strictly Muslim attire. In University, I had a group of Muslim friends (two Sufis and two Shi'ites and three Sunnis). I've never worked alongside them, but I've always heard they are honest and quite industrious workers.