Is it hard to find a job for aspies?

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25 Sep 2012, 9:45 am

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makes me hate capitalism and free-enterprise sometimes


There's nothing 'free' about free enterprise. I learned that one the hard way as a idealistic, intelligent but highly naive university graduate. You eventually come to realize 'capitalism' and 'communism' have much more in common than you might think. Thank God I'm unionized otherwise I would be guilt-tripped into working for peanuts because of all the oxygen I consume. I'm not going to get into a political debate but you quickly realize what you learned in economics class has little bearing on reality. I could never figure out why so many people laughed at my fanatical Libertarian views until a few years ago.

I was told to become essentially an indentured servant in order to stand out from the competition but what happens when everyone does the same thing? On the plus side my experiences have served me well to live in a lower income area and be very well respected. I've been in the trenches and I know unemployed Aspies know more about how the world works than most economists.



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25 Sep 2012, 10:09 am

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It's more difficult to get a job now than ten years ago (maybe), but there are some things you can do to increase your chances in the U.S.:
  • Stay out of trouble with the Law
  • Earn a high school diploma
  • Earn a driver's license
Lacking any of these will decrease your chances drastically. Other things that will not only increase your chances, but increase the quality of the work you get:
  • Enrolling in R.O.T.C. in high school and college
  • Earning an associates degree in a medical or technical field
  • Earning a four-year degree in a medical or technical field
  • Earning an honorable discharge after a minimum of four years of military service
  • Enlisting in the military as a reservist


Good list and I'm sure it applies to most countries including here in Canada. To should also add (I don't want to mention my specific job for privacy reasons but trust me, I'm in the know) is to avoid getting any tattoos or piercings other than a single set of earrings for women. Like it or not, many employers will not even consider anyone with either no matter how impressive a resume they have. The single worst thing you can do to make yourself unemployable is to get a tattoo on your arm or especially above your shoulders (like behind the ear for example). I shake my head when I see unemployed young women tattooed up and down complain they can't find work. :wall: If you are into those things great but if either is visible during the working day you can kiss your chances goodbye. I'm not saying whether that's a good or bad thing but it's reality.



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25 Sep 2012, 11:19 am

GiantHockeyFan wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
makes me hate capitalism and free-enterprise sometimes


There's nothing 'free' about free enterprise. I learned that one the hard way as a idealistic, intelligent but highly naive university graduate. You eventually come to realize 'capitalism' and 'communism' have much more in common than you might think. Thank God I'm unionized otherwise I would be guilt-tripped into working for peanuts because of all the oxygen I consume. I'm not going to get into a political debate but you quickly realize what you learned in economics class has little bearing on reality. I could never figure out why so many people laughed at my fanatical Libertarian views until a few years ago.

I was told to become essentially an indentured servant in order to stand out from the competition but what happens when everyone does the same thing? On the plus side my experiences have served me well to live in a lower income area and be very well respected. I've been in the trenches and I know unemployed Aspies know more about how the world works than most economists.


hate, despise, loathe this recession, horrible economy we have been in for ages now :x



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25 Sep 2012, 6:14 pm

GiantHockeyFan wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
makes me hate capitalism and free-enterprise sometimes


There's nothing 'free' about free enterprise. I learned that one the hard way as a idealistic, intelligent but highly naive university graduate. You eventually come to realize 'capitalism' and 'communism' have much more in common than you might think. Thank God I'm unionized otherwise I would be guilt-tripped into working for peanuts because of all the oxygen I consume. I'm not going to get into a political debate but you quickly realize what you learned in economics class has little bearing on reality. I could never figure out why so many people laughed at my fanatical Libertarian views until a few years ago.

I was told to become essentially an indentured servant in order to stand out from the competition but what happens when everyone does the same thing? On the plus side my experiences have served me well to live in a lower income area and be very well respected. I've been in the trenches and I know unemployed Aspies know more about how the world works than most economists.


I never did believe the" your under 30 and not a socialist you have not heart and if your over 30 and still one you have no brain."

That saying was invented by some one on wall street I imagine, with out the high street their would be no wall street sometimes people forget this .

This adulation of capital flight capitalists really needs to stop , now :roll:


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26 Sep 2012, 4:34 pm

the catch-22 regarding job experience had taken a bigger effect now ever since the recession started



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26 Sep 2012, 9:46 pm

WantToHaveALife wrote:
the catch-22 regarding job experience had taken a bigger effect now ever since the recession started
Another step in that is that they would train you in their software if you know the concepts behind it, but now they want you totally proficient in all the newest software before they will look at you. And the software has changed since i was last employed.



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26 Sep 2012, 11:20 pm

ghoti wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
the catch-22 regarding job experience had taken a bigger effect now ever since the recession started
Another step in that is that they would train you in their software if you know the concepts behind it, but now they want you totally proficient in all the newest software before they will look at you. And the software has changed since i was last employed.


i also strongly hate those personality assessment tests employers make you take, the ones with multiple choice questions



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27 Sep 2012, 11:22 pm

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I struggled to find - and keep - jobs back when ASD was the only thing I had to deal with. I have always been aware of my poor social skills and always been willing to do something about it, but so far haven't managed to turn things around. After I got fired from my last real job I acquired an autoimmune disease in addiction to my mental conditions, that severely impared my ability to work. That really pushed me on the brink of the labor market and I only got back into employment by means of some government program and lots of support from nice and dedicated social workers. I may have lost some professional pride in the process, but there really wasn't much choice for me. My time in unemployment got the best of me.


I feel like I need to have been born in Denmark...



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30 Sep 2012, 9:45 pm

Yes, it is hard for Aspies to find, and hold down a job.

At least, I have had trouble doing so.



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02 Oct 2012, 9:12 am

Yes it bloody is. I'm so high-functioning, can look after myself, can go out and do things on my own (anxiety makes it hard, but I still can do it), but when it comes to work it seems I lack the most important skill for everything.

This is another reason why I hate having AS - it's such a weird condition. You're able...but then you're not. :?
That then confuses the government, and they're unsure whether to let you claim for ESA or incapacity or DLA, because spiers go ''well if she's able to get a bus on her own, she must be able to do anything, so if we let her claim any of these things, she will be a fraud.''

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06 Feb 2019, 4:20 pm

I haven't had work for 16 years and that was because I set up that organisation myself from 2001-03. The job I had to apply for I got but that was due to me being the only applicant and that was some kind of advocacy worker. I put a lot of effort into that job and worked on it for about 60 hours a week. All I got out of that was about £20 a week and some former social worker used to come in and provide a little advice for the others and kept telling me 'we should be expecting more from you'. I didn't really enjoy it at all but I didn't hate it either. The job description was working under pressure (code for being bullied) I never had self worth at all. I have done voluntary work before which I really didn't enjoy. It didn't give me a feeling of self worth. It also doesn't pay anything or was conducive to life but was work experience. Not really motivating because since 1991 I have had anhedonia which means I don't feel pleasure or find anything rewarding but only done that including the advocacy stuff because if I didn't I would have been accused of being lazy. I do not have the ability to make money anywhere online or other way even though I have tried in the past it is like having the opposite of the Midas touch. The ability to make money is a major weakness of mine and especially this is crucial since Universal Credit is just around the corner in the UK. I am really up the creek without a paddle as so to speak especially at 52 years old I now feel that I was definitely born 24 years too early. If I applied for work the usual way then I would be turned down for any job that pays more than £20 a week but would be considered lucky to get an interview. When I was a teenager and into my 20s I knew exactly what I wanted to do but that didn't work out and now I don''t know since I have no marketable skills :arrow: