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Vexcalibur
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05 Nov 2012, 9:36 pm

yellowallpaper wrote:
no scientific base? There is no scientific proof that I am not you talking to yourself right now.
You were not talking, you were typing. And there is enough evidence - your very text. Ocam's razor tells me that you typed it.

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The post isn't about whether star children exist or not. Its about whether or not living though a self empowering personal narrative is a better way of living than by a self defeating one.
If your "empowering personal narrative" is based on bullshit, that's a recipe for disaster.


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05 Nov 2012, 11:20 pm

It is a matter of assumptions. The concepts of indigos, starseeds, and crystal children are based on the assumption that some members of the population originated in another world or galaxy. In other words, they are spiritual, not scientific, concepts.


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06 Nov 2012, 6:12 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

If your "empowering personal narrative" is based on bullshit, that's a recipe for disaster.


"I reject your reality and substitute my own." :roll:



07 Nov 2012, 1:57 am

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There is no valid empirical evidence for any claim supporting the existence of "Indigo" people. Any claim for the existence of Indigo people is based on belief alone, and is therefore subjective in nature. Insisting that Indigo people exist in spite of the lack of valid empirical evidence may indicate a delusional mind-set.

Things that are not valid empirical evidence:
  • Sarcasm against those who know better ("Obviously, you're not smart / spiritual / perceptive enough to even understand the concept").
  • Appeal to Popularity of the idea ("Millions of people believe in Indigo People, so there must be some truth to it").
  • Appeal from Incredulity that anyone would not believe ("I can't believe that the existence of Indigo People is is not obvious to you").
  • Appeal to False Authority of "experts" in unrelated fields of study ("9 out of 10 storefront psychics believe in Indigo People, so they must exist").
  • Argument from Ignorance ("You can't prove that Indigo People do not exist, so they must exist by default").
  • Irrelevant Conclusion ("Mitt Romney believes in Indigo People, therefore they must exist").
  • Begging the Question ("Indigo people are the next step in human evolution, because humans are evolving into a higher form").
  • No Truly Open Mind ("No one with an open mind would reject this idea"). This is a variation on "No True Scotsman".
  • Word Salad (A seemingly endless barrage of sentences that follow no progression of reasoning, but only seem to re-iterate the original idea in any number of ways).
Really, kid; we've all been through this before, and not one iota of anything other than subjective opinion and delusional rhetoric has been presented as proof of the existence of Indigo People. You can not convince us of the alleged validity of your claim, because you can not produce even one Indigo Person as valid empirical evidence.

Therefore, it is safe to assume that Indigo People do not exist, except in the minds of those who have been fooled into believing that they do.
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