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10 Nov 2012, 8:46 pm

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A phobia meaning an irrational fear is pretty funny in this context since the 1990 movie "Arachnophobia" is about spiders that cause near-instantaneous death to their victims.


It takes at least an hour, for the most venomous spider, the wandering spider, to kill.

The other species are incrementally less dangerous.

AFAIK this spider is found no where outside Brazil and specialist owners.


I wonder if it's even possible for venom to be as incredibly potent as the fictional-spiders in that Arachnophobia movie.



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10 Nov 2012, 8:46 pm

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Jumping spiders are cute little f****. :heart:


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Jumpers are great to have around.

Anyway, I'm weird. I don't particularly LIKE spiders, but they scare me less than insects for some reason. I don't know why. But if I see a spider in the house I'll be like, "Oh, OK" after the initial shock but if I see a roach or a beetle I'll freak out. Which is sorta more logical of an illogical fear, but yeah. For some reason spiders scare me slightly less than insects. My sister and her boyfriend once all got pissed at me for not killing some jumping spiders in the house, as I wanted to keep them in the house to kill other bugs.

I'm not as crazy as my friend. My friend has a messier house than mine, but no bugs. What he does is he purposely introduces spiders or other predatory bugs (like house centipedes) into his house to kill insects. He one time even crossbred the outdoor and indoor varieties of Wolf Spiders to make like, a super spider. Yep.



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10 Nov 2012, 8:59 pm

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A phobia meaning an irrational fear is pretty funny in this context since the 1990 movie "Arachnophobia" is about spiders that cause near-instantaneous death to their victims.


It takes at least an hour, for the most venomous spider, the wandering spider, to kill.

The other species are incrementally less dangerous.

AFAIK this spider is found no where outside Brazil and specialist owners.


I wonder if it's even possible for venom to be as incredibly potent as the fictional-spiders in that Arachnophobia movie.


Unlikely. The common denominator in all lethal spider bites seems to be the onset of certain symptoms - nausea, sweating, chest pains, panic attacks, tachycardia etc. In order to kill the venom has to gradually work on the organs and/or nervous system, it has to circulate through the bloodstream so cant go from bite to instant death.

Its said by medical authorities if you are a victim of a spider bite you ought to capture the spider that bit you to bring to the hospital in order that a suitable antivenom can be found. Although if i was in that situation I doubt it would be high up my priority list.



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10 Nov 2012, 9:02 pm

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Anyway, I'm weird. I don't particularly LIKE spiders, but they scare me less than insects for some reason. I don't know why. But if I see a spider in the house I'll be like, "Oh, OK" after the initial shock but if I see a roach or a beetle I'll freak out.


I dislike flies and roaches more than spiders, but that is purely because flies and roaches are filthy harbingers of disease.



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10 Nov 2012, 9:08 pm

I'm terrified of spiders because of an experience with hallucinogenic drugs. When I see one, I get irrationally terrified even though it can easily be killed. I just imagine.. It's hard to explain if you haven't been through what I've mentally been through.



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10 Nov 2012, 9:23 pm

I like spiders I think their cute I don't understand why people are so afraid of them either


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10 Nov 2012, 9:24 pm

It's not irrational to people who have it.


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10 Nov 2012, 9:58 pm

Completely irrational and I'd love to be rid of it, but it just isn't in the cards. Spiders have almost always scared the crap out of me, and it's only getting worse as time goes by.


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10 Nov 2012, 10:01 pm

I don't mind spiders, but I'm not going to start throwing stones in a glass house. Everyone has a strange phobia or two.



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10 Nov 2012, 11:36 pm

I can let a small spider walk on my hand and watch it curiously, but I feel extremely uneasy in the presence of those that are called daddy-long-legs in some countries. They look like they'll break into pieces any moment. The same goes for grasshoppers; I'm not afraid of them, I just fear they explode. And this is irrational.



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11 Nov 2012, 5:12 am

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The same goes for grasshoppers; I'm not afraid of them, I just fear they explode. And this is irrational.


No way! I wasn't going to say it because I thought it was too weird. But my main phobia is of grasshoppers and crickets, because they are so fast-moving and fragile. A cricket flew into my face once. It was horrible.



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11 Nov 2012, 7:51 am

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…because they are so fast-moving and fragile…

Yes, it is this fragility that terrifies me, too. For this reason the belly side of beetles is too horrible to look at. Their legs don't seem to be attached to anything, they just wiggle in the air. And the moment when a beetle is taking off to flying and opens its forewings!



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11 Nov 2012, 12:47 pm

I'm afraid of spiders, poisonous or not. It's not the poisonous fact that frightens me, it's just the look of them and the way they run so fast. I can't even go near them. I'm less afraid of them outside, but I still wouldn't touch one, ever. I just look upon them as creepy-crawlies, and they give me the heebie-jeebies. I don't like beetles either, especially with the hard shell on the back, but I wouldn't be afraid to go near one to put it in a jug and chuck it outside, because I know they won't suddenly skuttle towards me.

I don't have a fear of wasps and hornets, et cetera. I just don't like them near me because they sting. If I knew they DIDN'T sting, I wouldn't be afraid of them at all.

I'm not fearful of any insects, except spiders. The garden spiders aren't so scary because they live outside, in cobwebs, where they belong. But those big, black house spiders with the big wirey legs.....no wayyy!! !! !! !! !! !! !


But I think it's just one of those things people look at and want to run. It's a bit like if you saw a dead body hanging from a rope in the middle of the woods, the dead person who hung themselves obviously can't get you, but it's still a disturbing thing to see, and that most people would be freaked out.


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11 Nov 2012, 1:36 pm

Are not all spiders venomous? Only a few of them can give problems to humans, but I think every species of spider is capable of poisoning their prey.

It is not a completely irrational fear; even if few spiders can kill people, most of them have painful bites and can hide in the places you would not expect them to be. Seems to me like a perfectly appropriate defense mechanism.

Anyway, I do not fear spiders. in fact, I usually let them crawl over me when I see them. I really like to creep other people out. In fact, a few weeks ago I let a spider rest on my leg while I was on my break and I went up to the office with it crawling over my body. My coworkers were very creeped out by it. :twisted:

Unfortunately, they killed it after it dropped from me. :cry:


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11 Nov 2012, 2:45 pm

I'm very afraid of spiders, and my fear is HIGHLY irrational. Knowing logically that the spider's babies aren't going to come crawling out of the abdomen after I squish the spider isn't going to help me kill a spider. I can hold the big tarantulas no problem, but those inch-big spiders er so are terrifying!


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11 Nov 2012, 8:46 pm

thomas81 wrote:
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I think a lot of the fear of spiders is them being considered "creepy looking" by most people. Also, you usually aren't sure which ones are poisonous and which ones aren't. Larger ones are quite scary looking in my opinion too.


The larger ones tend to be the least venomous, ironically.

Dangerous spiders are-

1) The wandering spider or 'banana spider' from Brazil
2) Australian Funnelweb
3)Black Widow Spider (dont think there have been any black widow fatalities for last 20 years)
4)Japanese Red Back ( a close cousin of black widow)
5) Huntsman spider -a small brown spider with a large abdomen native to USA. Bites are non fatal but cause ganggrene.


So, how about if my mom's been bitten by #5 (her toe nearly rotted off, would have been her entire foot if she'd waited any longer than she did to see a doctor) and I've found #3 in my bed on multiple occasions, is my fear of them irrational?


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