Scientists identify gene mutation in autism

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Bill Gates is a genius now? news to me

entitlement to life for people with AS.
i think you can't really kill the kid on that it has As - any human is life but to have it killed for have a As genetic mark..

If a person who's a veg - no offence here but im making a point - no arm's - no leg's can have life - can not do anything for themself - then you can not make, entitlement to not have life for people with AS.

I am sure it will be classed as if you go for a test and it has (As) if we weed out stuff like that - then all the rest would be weeded out - then you be left with a bunch of no offence (hitlers)...

( I know they might go to a black market type doctor )

More than likely stuff will improve as more technology comes along and science...

( but then do you really want to fix it - will all the good thing's about us go or can they just fix the bad ) time will tell... & only time can show the path they go...

So would not worry about it....

(((Guess your not sat infront of a computer psych))) :/ must be a card board box with a granny on a bike - with a monkey drawing line's on the screen....

Im just wondering what hes achieved thats so easily deserving of the genius tag?

Windows? - early windows incarnations (and the hardware it was designed to run on) had an inferior desgn to its contemparies (ie apple & acorn), in terms of efficiency & ease of use it was years behind. Probably still is.

Business acumen? - Perhaps, this im not so sure about. But i suspect he got lucky - right contacts, right place at the right time etc. The adoption of IBM compatable PCs / windows as the mainstream platform has probably set personal computing back a good few years. It certainly didnt happen on merit.

Besides, if hes that clever how come im still running a pirated copy of XP and getting official updates direct from microsoft?

From what I understand, he stole many of his successful ideas.

I find it interesting that when scientists try finding genes for the genders of people, to why some people act the ways they do (like murder for instance; some say that people murder because of mental illness), why some people get obese and why others do not, why people become gay etc. My point is is that in this society people really find it better to have equal chances in life; like gay individuals would like equal rights, why people who have a genetic disorder for obesity (or have NC14 or whatever they call it) wish to be able to fit into this society that promotes almost anorexic men and women in fashion magazines and in celebrity life, that people who murder other people may have a disorder of the brain that (according to some of them) makes them act the way they do, and that people of both genders have genes that make them that way (just providing some examples; I don't think it's all of them, however). I'm saying that if someone came out with a way to find out what each person was going to be like, what disorder they have, or how they may act may cause people to be hypocritical in what they do support and what they don't support. I know that parents who have raised autistics or have raised a disabled person (or are still raising one) have a hard parenting life because it takes so much care and so much effort to raise them (depending on the severity of the disorder) and that for someone who would wish to abort their future child for a disorder would seem almost logical if they didn't want to spend lots of time and effort raising them. But, wouldn't it also be almost enough effort to raise a person you knew was going to be gay or to murder people or to be obese or to be someone that you don't want them to be; like a boy or girl perhaps? Wouldn't there be teasing at school for some situations or wouldn't there be trying to get outside help or remediation as with severly disabled children in some situations? Wouldn't it be almost the same amount of effort? If people abort their children because they have Asperger's, then I'd say they're being hypocrites to what society opposes and what society supports. I know its been brought up that if people start killing autistics that the next genius or innovator can be killed, which I say is true. People who wish to kill people just because they may have autism should look at society as a whole and why people would kill people like us; it's like asking if being gay was a disorder or if it was a choice in today's society and if they should offer a choice to parents to abort them (if it was based on genetics), and all the other stuff that may be choices or genetic disorders that are political in society (just providing an example for reference; I don't hate gays). That would spark a huge political brawl that people wouldn't be able to believe. It's just interesting that when it comes to things like autism, most people don't have the same spark that they would have for other issues like gay rights or obese people or murderers. If people think it's okay to kill their pre-born children because of disorder, then I think it will come to a point that people will think it's equally as okay to kill senior citizens who have Alzheimers or something because they don't function nearly as well and it takes "too much time and effort" to take care of them. Although it is the case for people putting others into retirement homes so that they can live their lives, I think that all people should be entitled to live the rest of their lives, not just the healthy. People think it's too hard to take care of the old, sick, and young and say it would make life "easier" to just let them die if they aren't ready to take care of them. I say that if they want to make life "easier", let the next genius or innovator be born so that they can think of other ways to make life easier.

"" Besides, if hes that clever how come im still running a pirated copy of XP and getting official updates direct from microsoft? Razz ""


Because no matter how much you try and stop someone from getting a Key that work's or braking the code - in the end it will be able to get through - and even safedisc can be emulated past by, hiding the emulator from the software, No matter how much you try it won't stop....

So does that make us all mutants?

KBABZ, please I'm interested in genetics enough as it is. Don't go giving me any ideas.

What about those people like myself who are aspie, and who actually *WANT* to have aspie children? We may be rare, but we do exist! Yes, an aspie child may be a handful and a challenge to raise from what many of the parents say here, but you must remember, that kids grow up to be adults. Most aspies grow up to be fully functioning adults that contribute highly to society. I don't think that being the father to someone of this stature would be a bad thing

*hypnotic voice*Aspie-NT Superwarrior... Aspie-NT Superwarrior Aspie-NT Superwarrior...! !

To AV-Geek, I agree completely. It's what CAN and Autism Speaks completely ignores in their way of speaking: That Kids become Adults. They seem to think that they've always been adults and kids will always be kids. C'mon people! Use your common sense!! (in all regards getting rid of us gets rid of a significant portion of the common sense, so... *irony*)

Interesting.

When I read the title of the topic, I was thinking of some other Genetic Mutation. No offense.

*tells KBABZ to stop with the hypnotic voice and playfights KBABZ*

A late reply, but better now than never.
Autism is multifactorial - that is, 90% genetic, 10 % enviroment, which includes everything else. This has been consistently shown in twin studies.
Over 15 (FIFTEEN) chromosomes have been associated to autism in genome scans, but most represent false positives.
Chromosomes 2,7 and 15 have the strongest associations. But there are no simple solutions - autism is a whole group of syndromes, i.e different genes and alleles that have similar outcome. Sometimes single gene mutations, for example the neuroligin gene, or chromosone 15 duplications, cause autism, but mostly, between 4 and 15 chromosomes work together to create the autistic phenotype, and two people with autism may have completely different combinations of genes.
I'd love to tell you more - but it may get boring. It's an obsession of mine!