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FletcherArrow
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20 Oct 2019, 4:04 pm

Most types of therapy that you are likely to get will focus on emotions and not on social skills.

Unless your therapist knows you are Aspie and has an understanding of Asperger's, they won't get what you really need. Most Aspies would like to have a set of rules and algorithms to help them understand how to behave and interpret NTs.

The best approach to treat Aspies is to help them manage their anxiety, help them develop some impulse control to learn not to interrupt and to be patient and learn to listen, and to practice eye contact.

We, Aspies, tend to be in our heads so much that we do not pay attention to what others might be experiencing. So, good therapy for an Aspie has to include behavioral and social skills. Don't blame therapy for a mediocre therapist



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20 Oct 2019, 6:51 pm

I am fortunate enough to have a therapist who specializes in treating folks with ASD.

In my humble opinion, while identifying emotions in yourself and others is very valuable, especially in life's crises, what we primarily need is concrete advice and social skills development, so as to improve the quality of day-to-day living.

Examples:
"You aren't socializing enough? Here are steps/sites/etc. that will help you achieve this."

"Do you seem to offend people without meaning to? Here are some rules and practice exercises to do to help reduce this from occurring."



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20 Oct 2019, 8:16 pm

Dead end

Cognitive behavioral therapy

Weird implications

"He hurt you!", As though it is unusual for anyone to "hurt" anyone

Mandated reporter obsession

Bad advice

Counselors making every slightest thing a catastrophe

"Huh" and "what"

Rhetorical question

Condescending compliments

Vague statements "you have a right to respect"

People make fun of the president and he can't stop them.

What is "respect"?

Some precious lil "people" say "respect" is being treated the way you want to be treated.


Ambiguous

Slippery slope

Conceptual slippage


Trump "likes" to be treated like a :evil: dictator :twisted:


Doesn't mean that if he doesn't get treated like a dictator, someone violated his stupidass "rights"



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21 Oct 2019, 1:06 am

With my limited experience, the biggest obstacle for therapists was probably my alexythymia and my own lack of awareness of it. I knew I was suffering, I knew my emotions were freaking out, but I had no idea what they were and I used random names for them.
That of course made most therapist completely misinterpret me, sometimes to disastrous outcomes.
The helpful one is training me in identifying what I feel. Apparently, alexythymia can be (at least partially) treated.

Other Aspies may have different challenges. I guess the main problem is communication. Autism impairs nonverbal communication and therapists lacking awareness of it easily misinterpret their patient and choose wrong directions in treatment.


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21 Oct 2019, 7:48 am

Cognitive behavioral therapy, two years, did not give me any coping mechanism

Just indulgent smoke and mirrors

Don't take it personally
Globalization
Meditation

Are correct but heard of them before


The most "helpful" thing counselor Jeanne Courtney said was "excuse me", instead of "what" and "huh"


She acted so confident


In her defense I had no goals, long term, cumulative


:heart: confidence not proportional to competence :heart: :wink:


f**k Jeanne Courtney


For 75 bucks an hour that b***h didn't tell me a single original statement


While I told her plenty of original statements


But whatever, the insurance paid


On the other hand, autism based therapy might not have "helped" either


But whatever even if that b***h were to have told me the perfect statements, then what?


"Actions speak louder than words"


And then if the next day, I got expelled, terminated, divorced, raped, shot with a gun. Jeannes perfect didjeridoo concerto would not "help"


:mrgreen:



The Access line (insurance) told me the email for a new counselor


Emailed and asked if, if I email questions, she would email the answers


b***h told me she "would prefer" phone

:roll:


Emailed her about statements other counselors had the nerve to tell me and asked what her response was



Counselor Judy Jones could not even be bothered to answer



What kind of counselor refuses to email?


Email is more official than a phone call, b***h



FletcherArrow
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27 Oct 2019, 9:21 am

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
Cognitive behavioral therapy, two years, did not give me any coping mechanism

Just indulgent smoke and mirrors

Don't take it personally
Globalization
Meditation

Are correct but heard of them before


The most "helpful" thing counselor Jeanne Courtney said was "excuse me", instead of "what" and "huh"


She acted so confident


In her defense I had no goals, long term, cumulative


:heart: confidence not proportional to competence :heart: :wink:


f**k Jeanne Courtney


For 75 bucks an hour that b***h didn't tell me a single original statement


While I told her plenty of original statements


But whatever, the insurance paid


On the other hand, autism based therapy might not have "helped" either


But whatever even if that b***h were to have told me the perfect statements, then what?


"Actions speak louder than words"


And then if the next day, I got expelled, terminated, divorced, raped, shot with a gun. Jeannes perfect didjeridoo concerto would not "help"


:mrgreen:



The Access line (insurance) told me the email for a new counselor


Emailed and asked if, if I email questions, she would email the answers


b***h told me she "would prefer" phone

:roll:


Emailed her about statements other counselors had the nerve to tell me and asked what her response was



Counselor Judy Jones could not even be bothered to answer



What kind of counselor refuses to email?


Email is more official than a phone call, b***h


Actually, a phone call is more official and personal than email.

What kind of therapist refuses to email? A therapist who knows that email is not HIPAA compliant. A therapist who thinks that a phone call is more personal and direct and shows greater personal concern.

Do people go to guitar lessons, refuse to practice between lessons and then get angry at the teacher for not doing a good job?

Why do you think that "autism based therapy might not have "helped" either?