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26 Nov 2012, 2:55 pm

I have met a few Irish men in my life and it seems that on TV and in real life they really are grumpy and edgy. They always seem too look moody. the Scottish people I have met are pleasant too get along with and just simple straightforward people. The Americans in have met are smiley and fascinating.


So why do you think quite a few Irish people are this way? Maybe its cause I am English?



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26 Nov 2012, 4:07 pm

I thought the stereotype about Scottish people were that THEY were grumpy and edgy. And of course stingy, look at Uncle Scrooge McDuck. :) And I wouldn't know if it has anything to do with being English. I'm Canadian, I wonder what you'd think of us, especially if you think Americans are smiley and fascinating. :) I think it depends on WHERE in Canada you're in, just like in the states. Also I don't think I'm like most Canadians in general. For one thing I'm sick of people acting like hockey is the greatest thing since sliced bread. In fact, I'm not sure sliced bread is the greatest thing in the world, either. Although I've found that it is scientifically impossible to cut a perfect slice by hand. But I've digressed. Again. :lol:



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26 Nov 2012, 4:09 pm

Back before Political Correctness got birthed it was generally assumed Irishmen stayed drunk all the time. Apparently its fairly true. They seem to rank only one notch behind the Frog Eating Frenchies and everybody knows they stay drunk 24/7. The heavy hitters from them two countries must graduate to moving to Luxemburg which seems to have the highest alcohol consumption in the world. I bet the goofy acting Irishmen you met were in their cups so to speak.

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26 Nov 2012, 4:12 pm

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I have met a few Irish men in my life and it seems that on TV and in real life they really are grumpy and edgy. They always seem too look moody. the Scottish people I have met are pleasant too get along with and just simple straightforward people


As an Irishman who lives in scotland. .. I swear you've the two mixed up. Sure you were talking to Irish people? I've met a few english folks who thought I was polish.

Oh and it really depends where they're from. . Background. . . mood. .. Seriously we're as different as any one else. Then you've the regional differences, People from liverpool are alot more fun than people from Berkshire in my opinion. It's the same with us, Different countys. . opinions and so forth.. . .


That all said, We do like to have a moan, tell a story/rant and I've been called moody before. But am not every Irishman.


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26 Nov 2012, 6:25 pm

The author of "A Christmas Story" (you'll shoot your eye out) movie, Jean Shepherd, had a radio show for many years.

On his radio show on March 17, 1972, he spoke about being in Dublin one St Patrick's Day.

On the first morning of the visit, Shamus from Dublin met him to escort him to their offices. Of course, they stopped in a pub first for round of Irish Whiskey (10 year old Paddy) with a Guinness Stout chaser and end up with several rounds instead.

While drinking, Shamus asked about what St Patrick's Day is like in New York City and says that he has always wanted to spend a St Patrick's Day in New York City which struck Jean Shepherd as pretty odd.

It was a pretty good radio show.



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26 Nov 2012, 7:00 pm

Maybe the Irish people you met were all in England because they couldn't get a job here in Ireland. Having to leave home, friends and family would be a reasonable motive for being a bit gloomy, don't you think? I don't think we're all morose, I think maybe it's who you met.

Not everyone drinks, and not all that do are overdoing it. Many rarely go to the pub. I hardly ever go there myself. People don't tend to drink that much at home, either. I don't think the people I know do, anyway.

There was a stage when many would have resented English people for historical reasons, but most people I know wouldn't be like that. It's not fair to blame people for something done by their ancestors, after all. But I know there are some people who still feel that way. It doesn't mean we all do. It's like Irish Tusk said - people are very different in different places in Ireland, and even within the same place. Stereotypes are not good indicators of what real people are like, and the people you meet in one situation may be very different from others.



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27 Nov 2012, 3:07 pm

Did anybody realize there are more folks of Irish Extraction in Noo Yawk City than lives in Ireland? That was a shocker when it was first heard. Somebody might want to run that through Snopes or something..lol.



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28 Nov 2012, 4:39 am

bigwheel wrote:
Did anybody realize there are more folks of Irish Extraction in Noo Yawk City than lives in Ireland? That was a shocker when it was first heard. Somebody might want to run that through Snopes or something..lol.


More people leaving Ireland recently than during the Famine.


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28 Nov 2012, 7:19 am

lostonearth35 wrote:
I thought the stereotype about Scottish people were that THEY were grumpy and edgy. And of course stingy, look at Uncle Scrooge McDuck. :) And I wouldn't know if it has anything to do with being English. I'm Canadian, I wonder what you'd think of us, especially if you think Americans are smiley and fascinating. :) I think it depends on WHERE in Canada you're in, just like in the states. Also I don't think I'm like most Canadians in general. For one thing I'm sick of people acting like hockey is the greatest thing since sliced bread. In fact, I'm not sure sliced bread is the greatest thing in the world, either. Although I've found that it is scientifically impossible to cut a perfect slice by hand. But I've digressed. Again. :lol:
This is the Scottish joke stereotype, but it's not very accurate at all. It actually comes from Sir Harry Lauder, an old music hall star, who was Scottish, but made jokes about his fellow Scots being mean. It was light-hearted humour, but it has stuck. On average, we're poorer than the English, so don't have as much money to splash around, but that doesn't make us mean. Also, a lot of Scots who English people have bumped into have moved south, perhaps to get away from something or to attempt to make a better life. Many have unfortunately ended up being homeless, with addiction problems. This is not an indication of what Scots are like. You'd have to come here, to meet an average Scot and we're really not that different from English people. We have a reputation for being dour, but a lot of what I hear is just offensive and a way of putting people down. We also get joked about because of some notion that we all eat deep fried Mars bars, when I've seen these for sale once in my lifetime, IN ENGLAND. This is similar to what the Irish have had to put up with, i.e. they're stupid and drunk. None of these stereotypes have any basis on truth. We're all just people after all.


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28 Nov 2012, 8:52 pm

Sorry to hear about the continued migration from the Emerald Isle. Now are Scotsmen really thrifty? Where do they have..retular ol donnies?



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02 Dec 2012, 3:39 pm

You can't really say that all Irish are moody, that's like saying all people from London are obnoxious and conceited. There are certain truths in most stereotypes, Irish people do in general drink quite a lot of alcohol, most binge at the weekend.



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21 Feb 2013, 7:43 pm

[quote="IrishTusk"]More people leaving Ireland recently than during the Famine.[/quote]
yeah im not sure thats true, but im aware of their being a cultural difference especially over the euro at the moment, which is still active i believe in some parts of ireland?
i have ancestors who emmigrated from ireland, most of mine were spread out but went to nearby scotland and emmigrated again, to be closer to cultural districts and amenities. is county mayo now a poor place or is it equally diverse? im interested in the standards of living over there now..



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24 Feb 2013, 4:52 pm

I was born and raised in Ireland but now I'm in my 40's I've now lived in England longer than I did in Ireland. In my experience only I've met more moody English than moody Irish. But that's just one persons experience. As for stereotypes....I'm teetotal :)



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25 Feb 2013, 12:54 pm

im not sure where this comes from but i bet that given the time and space that gives people their own recollection of not a day gone past ,where we would have seen them tearing up all the republican states everywhere but where are they now that the popes resigned and released his powers on somebody else?
we all want a debate in a free democratic spoken society. ive heard of french- irish republicans in ireland but maybe not are all are to be reformed of a full catholic choir in our own house of lords.
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27 Feb 2013, 6:25 am

I like Irish people don't know why really.


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27 Feb 2013, 10:44 am

I'm Irish so I may be able to contribute. Some of the stereotypes are true( Irish people do drink a lot but not everyone does) but we in general are very friendly ( we are the land of a thousand welcomes after all lol ) . Irish people are usually pessimistic but again that depends on the person and their background. Grumpy seems too far fetched for my liking. Irish men just like to complain about stuff ,especially the older ones :P Hope that was some what helpful to the discussion