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02 Dec 2012, 3:10 am

I definitely fit the description of a person with Asperger's concerning obsessions and sensory issues.
It's the social issues that seems lacking. I am female and know that that could mean if I have Asperger's social issues would possibly not be as bad for me. I don't think people think of me as someone with bad social skills or with Asperger's, and I don't have a lot of stereotypical autistic problems socializing, like not understanding body language, etc (which I think I can just fine.) But is it possible I could have an ASD with such mild social issues/differences? Do any of you seem to not have the stereotypical/worse social troubles?

-I'm very, very introverted to the point that I can totally isolate myself to where I start to become depressed or make others worry about me. I have a few friends, but very rarely want to hang out with them. It isn't very enjoyable to me. I did lose a friend because of this once too sadly. I crave being alone.
-Friends that know me better definitely describe me as eccentric. A friend of mine with an autistic brother actually asked me if I was autistic, but I don't know if it was because of my social skills or some other reason.
-Around everyone else, I am withdrawn and sometimes don't actually know what to say to them. Sometimes I stay in my bedroom, because when I go downstairs, just having family say even a little to me is irritating at times when I don't feel in the mood to socialize with anyone.
-People seem to think I am a lot more serious than what I really am. My mom says I have a very serious expression a lot of the time. One of my professors even asks me every class if I am okay and told me I look like I am mad at him sometimes, though I'm not. I even laugh at his jokes and whatnot like everyone else, so I don't understand why he thinks that.
-I have social anxiety too. Also, I don't like to do things alone because I worry that if I do not have someone else with me, I will not know what to do in various social situations or exactly what to say to people. When I am alone, I manage but am awkward at times for sure.
-I've been told I correct people a lot and that it can be rude, but I don't notice that I do this. I'll have to admit that I will give people explanations or facts a lot of the time, but nobody has ever seemed to dislike it. At least they don't tell me if they do.


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02 Dec 2012, 4:01 am

laserwater wrote:
I definitely fit the description of a person with Asperger's concerning obsessions and sensory issues.
It's the social issues that seems lacking. I am female and know that that could mean if I have Asperger's social issues would possibly not be as bad for me. I don't think people think of me as someone with bad social skills or with Asperger's, and I don't have a lot of stereotypical autistic problems socializing, like not understanding body language, etc (which I think I can just fine.) But is it possible I could have an ASD with such mild social issues/differences? Do any of you seem to not have the stereotypical/worse social troubles?

-I'm very, very introverted to the point that I can totally isolate myself to where I start to become depressed or make others worry about me. I have a few friends, but very rarely want to hang out with them. It isn't very enjoyable to me. I did lose a friend because of this once too sadly. I crave being alone.
-Friends that know me better definitely describe me as eccentric. A friend of mine with an autistic brother actually asked me if I was autistic, but I don't know if it was because of my social skills or some other reason.
-Around everyone else, I am withdrawn and sometimes don't actually know what to say to them. Sometimes I stay in my bedroom, because when I go downstairs, just having family say even a little to me is irritating at times when I don't feel in the mood to socialize with anyone.
-People seem to think I am a lot more serious than what I really am. My mom says I have a very serious expression a lot of the time. One of my professors even asks me every class if I am okay and told me I look like I am mad at him sometimes, though I'm not. I even laugh at his jokes and whatnot like everyone else, so I don't understand why he thinks that.
-I have social anxiety too. Also, I don't like to do things alone because I worry that if I do not have someone else with me, I will not know what to do in various social situations or exactly what to say to people. When I am alone, I manage but am awkward at times for sure.
-I've been told I correct people a lot and that it can be rude, but I don't notice that I do this. I'll have to admit that I will give people explanations or facts a lot of the time, but nobody has ever seemed to dislike it. At least they don't tell me if they do.


I am nearly the same but - the stereotyped behavior/obsessive interests in AS. So you are not alone of people diagnosed.



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02 Dec 2012, 7:50 am

I am not as bad with socializing as most people with Asperger's seem to be. I can read body language and facial expressions well if I try. I have spent a lot of time just watching and listening to people so I learned that way. That and books plus shows like Lie to Me.

I only talk to people if I have to so I don't have too many awkward interactions. People just think I'm quiet. I keep my interests to myself. I do have issues explaining things, though, and then obsess over what I think I said wrong. I have to really prepare myself for social situations but do relatively well. I take medication that really helps me socialize more effectively, too.



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02 Dec 2012, 7:23 pm

Interesting replies, thank you both.

I'm just so on the fence whether I have mild Asperger's or not, and I know I can't be NT anyhow, I don't really know what I am. :s


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02 Dec 2012, 11:01 pm

You sound a lot like me (we even have similar AQ and Aspie quiz scores). I've obsessed about things since I was little, I know I stim a lot, and I'm mostly not interested in socializing. People have told me I sometimes look mad or hard to approach, and also that I'm very, very quiet. But I can talk to my peers/professors about research (honours student), I'm starting to make an effort with small talk, and I've never had a problem with understanding body language. When I'm with people I know well I mostly follow their lead in social situations. Do I have mild AS? Am I just a quirky NT? Do I have something completely different? I have no idea. If you find out you should let us all know :)

Sometimes I wonder how different my own perception of social situations is from other people. It's possible I'm below average with body language and just don't notice. After all, it's not like I know what other people are seeing in the exact same situation. I know when I was young my parents/teachers would pull me aside when I made a social faux-pas, but when you're an adult nobody's going to tell you that to your face. If that makes sense.



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02 Dec 2012, 11:14 pm

<---- Is a woman diagnosed with AS and the general reaction by close friends, family, and even people with AS is disbelief because I "seem normal". Well, I'll trust the psychologist's opinion - they really have to look into your developmental history before making a judgement.

Just curious about the reading you've done into women with AS. Have you read/seen any of Tony Attwood's material? According to him, women with AS tend to cope in more seemingly normal ways. They also tend to disguise their problems and appear more social than boys with AS. I can relate well to his take on girls with AS, as well as Rudy Simone's, Liane Holliday Willey, and other women who wrote books on girls with AS. If you do too, perhaps you have it. If not, well just having depression and social anxiety are reasons enough to go seek help - there could be something else that you have. PDD-NOS has similar symptoms to AS and is on the autism spectrum, but lacks the social difficulties.



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02 Dec 2012, 11:15 pm

I am able to read peoples' expressions fairly well, but I don't know if I was able when I was little. I'm unsure as to whether it is a skill I have improved on as I've gotten older.

Having said that, I absolutely hate small talk, I often stumble for words when engaging in it, I don't know what I should say next or I get nervous and try and say something and mix up words.

Like if a shop assistant says "How are you" I might say "thank you" as if I don't know which part of the conversation I'm meant to be answering to.

I also like my own company, don't like socialising very much and avoid it in general. I feel resentful when I've spent the day with someone that because I was with them I didn't have time to do other things I like doing on my own.



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02 Dec 2012, 11:19 pm

Right... I should say that the psychologist told me that my AS is "mild" - but that was not in the formal diagnosis. Maybe the severity of social skills varies on the spectrum?



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02 Dec 2012, 11:27 pm

kat333 wrote:
Like if a shop assistant says "How are you" I might say "thank you" as if I don't know which part of the conversation I'm meant to be answering to.


I have done the exact same thing so many times. It's those reflexive phrases. If I'm distracted or off-balance I'll end up blurting out 'thank you' instead of 'excuse me' when passing someone, or as a response to a sudden question. Then it's time for crossing my fingers and hoping nobody noticed :P

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PDD-NOS has similar symptoms to AS and is on the autism spectrum, but lacks the social difficulties.


As I understand it, PDD-NOS describes any case where a person meets the requirements of only 2 out of the 3 'categories' of autism, but whose condition causes them enough trouble that they warrant some kind of diagnosis. It doesn't necessarily have to be social skills.



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03 Dec 2012, 12:42 am

@Laserwater I'm very similar to you too. I'm quite sure I'm on the spectrum, but at the same time I'm not sure if my behaviour can be considered a 'disorder' as it doesn't seem severe enough. Though with me, I think my social issues are a bit more noticeable and my sensory issues less noticeable. I recently read something about a term that was coined, called 'autistic cousin', used to describe people who display a lot of autistic traits and have similar experiences to people with an ASD, but don't fit the criteria for a diagnosis. It doesn't seem to be a widely used term though.


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03 Dec 2012, 2:08 am

Cadawell wrote:
You sound a lot like me (we even have similar AQ and Aspie quiz scores). I've obsessed about things since I was little, I know I stim a lot, and I'm mostly not interested in socializing. People have told me I sometimes look mad or hard to approach, and also that I'm very, very quiet. But I can talk to my peers/professors about research (honours student), I'm starting to make an effort with small talk, and I've never had a problem with understanding body language. When I'm with people I know well I mostly follow their lead in social situations. Do I have mild AS? Am I just a quirky NT? Do I have something completely different? I have no idea. If you find out you should let us all know :)

Sometimes I wonder how different my own perception of social situations is from other people. It's possible I'm below average with body language and just don't notice. After all, it's not like I know what other people are seeing in the exact same situation. I know when I was young my parents/teachers would pull me aside when I made a social faux-pas, but when you're an adult nobody's going to tell you that to your face. If that makes sense.

Wow, yeah we do sound very, very similar o.O. I also stim -a lot-. It's weird when I see myself in a video, I just seem to act so quirky. But that just might be b/c I'm not used to seeing myself, so who knows, maybe I am bad at using body language even though I think I can understand it fine. If it weren't for my mom correcting me socially, I would be kind of bad at it today. I was the kind of kid who only needed to corrected once. I remember one time a neighbor asked if I would be interested in babysitting her kids ever, and I said, "If I ever babysat your kids, you wouldn't get them back with their heads still attached." or something similarly... not good to say lol. Of course, I wouldn't hurt them and didn't mean it that way welp. When we got home, my mom was so mad at me :(

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<---- Is a woman diagnosed with AS and the general reaction by close friends, family, and even people with AS is disbelief because I "seem normal". Well, I'll trust the psychologist's opinion - they really have to look into your developmental history before making a judgement.

Just curious about the reading you've done into women with AS. Have you read/seen any of Tony Attwood's material? According to him, women with AS tend to cope in more seemingly normal ways. They also tend to disguise their problems and appear more social than boys with AS. I can relate well to his take on girls with AS, as well as Rudy Simone's, Liane Holliday Willey, and other women who wrote books on girls with AS. If you do too, perhaps you have it. If not, well just having depression and social anxiety are reasons enough to go seek help - there could be something else that you have. PDD-NOS has similar symptoms to AS and is on the autism spectrum, but lacks the social difficulties.

I've only read a bit on the internet. Also, I don't actually have depression (anymore.) It's just when I keep to myself for way too long that I start to feel like my brain leans back towards depression. I socialize a little, then feel better. The social anxiety though, yeah.. I used to go to therapy for panic disorder, and I'm mostly better, but I'm left with mild anxiety here and there and can't seem to get it to go away. But I would rather not be on medicine my whole life.

Cadawell wrote:
As I understand it, PDD-NOS describes any case where a person meets the requirements of only 2 out of the 3 'categories' of autism, but whose condition causes them enough trouble that they warrant some kind of diagnosis. It doesn't necessarily have to be social skills.

I saw the supposed DSM 5 criteria online for ASD, and I do match 2/3 categories. Of course, the PDD-NOS diagnosis is going to be thrown out the window come next year b/c of the DSM 5, so eh :s If that's what PDD-NOS is though, then I could most likely get the diagnosis.


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