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05 Jan 2013, 12:01 pm

I think people on WP generalise way too much, to the point where things start to sound ridiculous.
People here generalise more about NTs than they do of those on the spectrum, like they think NTs live a perfect life, all have excellent jobs making piles of money, all have kids that are close to them and they do everything with, all spend every waking minute of their life socialising, and all get married and stay with their partners forever.
OK, maybe people who got married before the 80s usually stayed together and are still together now as an elderly couple. But people nowadays don't stay with each other 5 minutes (not everybody, but a lot). I've already heard of 3 people that I know of who had a big wedding then a few months later they've split up. And a teacher what my mum is very good friends with who works at a primary school said that over half of the youngest children (4 to 5-year-olds) are all being brought up by single parents. She also says that a lot of the children have half-brothers and half-sisters, basically have siblings from different mums or dads. Some children don't even know who their father, and a lot nowadays get brought up living with secrets and lies.
And the unemployment level in the UK has gone up an awful lot, and a lot of people are struggling to make ends meet.

So life isn't all rosy for NTs. I want to be an NT badly for different reasons, not for reasons what I think are true. I know trying to explain the neurological differences between an Aspie and an NT is very subtle, but I'm not a believer of ''having social skills means a perfect life''. Does anyone agree?


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05 Jan 2013, 12:19 pm

Yes, I agree.

Generalization gives an idea about the trend of a group of people, but not about all the people in that group. Surely many non-AS people enjoy a good social life, but some of them probably don't. Some of non-AS people probably have lower IQ and don't get a good job. So, I agree that they do suffer in various ways, too.

When we think of our problems, we tend to "the grass is greener on the other side". Of course I still do think people with AS struggle more than non-AS people do in certain specific ways, particularly socially because we are the minority. But they (non-AS people) have their own problems, too.



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05 Jan 2013, 12:26 pm

Yes, people with ASDs (or other conditions too) do suffer more than NTs in subtle ways. Obviously people who generalise about the general population too much obviously haven't met many NT people, or maybe have only met people that are rich or intelligent.


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05 Jan 2013, 12:30 pm

I get your point, but maybe its their point of view, it is not a fact. Or it is another way to try to explain something. It could be true in some cases but not for everyone.
I think everyone generalize when they don't know too much about something or they angry. Maybe I am generalizing now.



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05 Jan 2013, 1:04 pm

I think because this is a forum for people with AS/autism and we see ourselves as sufferers (we do actually suffer a lot in many ways because of AS/autism), we tend to kind of exaggerate how lucky they (non-AS people) are in order to emphasize our problems. I'm pretty sure that many people here on WP are aware that non-AS people's lives are not just all rosy and fantastic. I guess we just tend to focus on our problems. After all this (WP) is one of the few places where we can vent, so we natually do that. Well, I think that's what's happening here.



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05 Jan 2013, 1:36 pm

jk1 wrote:
I think because this is a forum for people with AS/autism and we see ourselves as sufferers (we do actually suffer a lot in many ways because of AS/autism), we tend to kind of exaggerate how lucky they (non-AS people) are in order to emphasize our problems. I'm pretty sure that many people here on WP are aware that non-AS people's lives are not just all rosy and fantastic. I guess we just tend to focus on our problems. After all this (WP) is one of the few places where we can vent, so we natually do that. Well, I think that's what's happening here.


Ditto


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