High culture is being corrupted by a culture of fakes

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13 Jan 2013, 1:24 am

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Universities are propagating nonsense where the fake intellectual invites you to conspire in his own self-deception.

Roger Scruton

A high culture is the self-consciousness of a society. It contains the works of art, literature, scholarship and philosophy that establish a shared frame of reference among educated people. High culture is a precarious achievement, and endures only if it is underpinned by a sense of tradition, and by a broad endorsement of the surrounding social norms. When those things evaporate, as inevitably happens, high culture is superseded by a culture of fakes.

Faking depends on a measure of complicity between the perpetrator and the victim, who together conspire to believe what they don't believe and to feel what they are incapable of feeling. There are fake beliefs, fake opinions, fake kinds of expertise. There is also fake emotion, which comes about when people debase the forms and the language in which true feeling can take root, so that they are no longer fully aware of the difference between the true and the false. Kitsch is one very important example of this. The kitsch work of art is not a response to the real world, but a fabrication designed to replace it. Yet both producer and consumer conspire to persuade each other that what they feel in and through the kitsch work of art is something deep, important and real.

Anyone can lie. One need only have the requisite intention – in other words, to say something with the intention to deceive. Faking, by contrast, is an achievement. To fake things you have to take people in, yourself included. In an important sense, therefore, faking is not something that can be intended, even though it comes about through intentional actions. The liar can pretend to be shocked when his lies are exposed, but his pretence is merely a continuation of his lying strategy. The fake really is shocked when he is exposed, since he had created around himself a community of trust, of which he himself was a member. Understanding this phenomenon is, it seems to me, integral to understanding how a high culture works, and how it can become corrupted.

We are interested in high culture because we are interested in the life of the mind, and we entrust the life of the mind to institutions because it is a social benefit. Even if only a few people are capable of living this life to the full, we all benefit from its results, in the form of knowledge, technology, legal and political understanding, and the works of art, literature and music that evoke the human condition and also reconcile us to it. Aristotle went further, identifying contemplation (theoria) as the highest goal of mankind, and leisure (schole) as the means to it. Only in contemplation, he suggested, are our rational needs and desires properly fulfilled. Kantians might prefer to say that in the life of the mind we reach through the world of means to the kingdom of ends. We leave behind the routines of instrumental reasoning and enter a world in which ideas, artefacts and expressions exist for their own sake, as objects of intrinsic value. We are then granted the true homecoming of the spirit. Such seems to be implied by Friedrich Schiller, in his Letters Upon the Aesthetic Education of Man (1794). Similar views underlie the German romantic view of Bildung: self-cultivation as the goal of education and the foundation of the university curriculum.

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13 Jan 2013, 4:07 am

I read some of it, but it is beyond the scope of my understanding.



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13 Jan 2013, 7:39 am

same here. The article went over my head



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13 Jan 2013, 8:29 am

I disagree with this article.

Here is the crux of it, somewhat past the quoted part:

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There is a way of debating that disregards the truth of another's words, since it is concerned to diagnose them, to discover "where they are coming from", and to reveal the emotional, moral and political attitudes that underlie a given choice of words.


The school of thought that the author is writing against is called Postmodernism. From the wiki explanation of Postmodernism:

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Postmodernism postulates that many, if not all, apparent realities are only social constructs and are therefore subject to change. It claims that there is no absolute truth and that the way people perceive the world is subjective and emphasises the role of language, power relations, and motivations in the formation of ideas and beliefs


The author never says "Postmodernism" explicitly but does go on at length disagreeing with the tenets of Postmodernism. Since I think Postmodernism is a valuable way to look at things, I therefore disagree with the article which is a screed against it. There are absolute truths in some fields, such as physics and mathematics, but once you get into the squishier fields of biology, sociology or any of the arts, "where they are coming from" (as the author puts it) does influence what is called Truth. I included biology, since it does get affected by this human tendency. Consider species classification. It seems objective but it's actually based on how humans think dividing lines should be drawn, which will be based on culture. We are moving into speciation by genetics which does seem more objective, but even so, the entire concept of "speciation" may just be a cultural construct rather than a biological Truth.

I do agree with the author that Postmodern writers sometimes use "impenetrable syntax" (his words, though he never uses the term "Postmodernism") to give nonsense the veneer of truth. I certainly don't agree with all Postmodern writers about the conclusions they come to when they are "interrogating a text" (their term for trying to figure out what sort of cultural underpinnings a philosopher or author from centuries ago was working with). But I disagree with the author that this is an inherently useless way of approaching historical works. And I vehemently disagree that it poses any danger to high culture. Deconstructing Shakespeare doesn't make his works any less valuable or appreciated or meaningful. And it doesn't prevent any great works from arising in the future.



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13 Jan 2013, 11:11 am

I think the moral of the story is that high income and lavish lifestyle, has become confused with high culture and upper class. It shocks me how many people don't understand that there are upper-class poor people and low-class billionaires.

Class and culture is assessed by your family's moral, educational, and background of benevolence in the community and society; not the size of the family's wealth.

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13 Jan 2013, 12:42 pm

Janissy wrote:
I disagree with this article.

Here is the crux of it, somewhat past the quoted part:

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There is a way of debating that disregards the truth of another's words, since it is concerned to diagnose them, to discover "where they are coming from", and to reveal the emotional, moral and political attitudes that underlie a given choice of words.


The school of thought that the author is writing against is called Postmodernism. From the wiki explanation of Postmodernism:

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Postmodernism postulates that many, if not all, apparent realities are only social constructs and are therefore subject to change. It claims that there is no absolute truth and that the way people perceive the world is subjective and emphasises the role of language, power relations, and motivations in the formation of ideas and beliefs


The author never says "Postmodernism" explicitly but does go on at length disagreeing with the tenets of Postmodernism. Since I think Postmodernism is a valuable way to look at things, I therefore disagree with the article which is a screed against it. There are absolute truths in some fields, such as physics and mathematics, but once you get into the squishier fields of biology, sociology or any of the arts, "where they are coming from" (as the author puts it) does influence what is called Truth. I included biology, since it does get affected by this human tendency. Consider species classification. It seems objective but it's actually based on how humans think dividing lines should be drawn, which will be based on culture. We are moving into speciation by genetics which does seem more objective, but even so, the entire concept of "speciation" may just be a cultural construct rather than a biological Truth.

I do agree with the author that Postmodern writers sometimes use "impenetrable syntax" (his words, though he never uses the term "Postmodernism") to give nonsense the veneer of truth. I certainly don't agree with all Postmodern writers about the conclusions they come to when they are "interrogating a text" (their term for trying to figure out what sort of cultural underpinnings a philosopher or author from centuries ago was working with). But I disagree with the author that this is an inherently useless way of approaching historical works. And I vehemently disagree that it poses any danger to high culture. Deconstructing Shakespeare doesn't make his works any less valuable or appreciated or meaningful. And it doesn't prevent any great works from arising in the future.


Yes, Scruton is a "conservative" philosopher - he does take issue with Pomo. I am not an expert ... yet :wink: - but this is within my scope of study. Further, I am from a "low culture" working class background - heehee - so, I love infiltrating the bastion of academia and poking at it.

Anyone interested in this topic would probably enjoy Jean Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation and the notion of "hyper-reality": http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/Anthro/An ... realit.htm

The first Matrix movie gives a nice little nod to his "influence." Baudrillard is more a provocateur than a "philosopher", though, and as I have an overlap of interest with Lit Theory, I enjoy him immensely. I also recommend Marshall McLuhan who in turn influenced this work :D

For a philosophical constructivist account, I recommend the works of Joseph Margolis - I am just familiarizing myself with his thought, though he is a veteran. I will let Wikipedia give you an overview to see if you are interested - pardon my lassitude :wink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Margolis


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13 Jan 2013, 1:34 pm

Thanks for the links. 8)



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13 Jan 2013, 1:53 pm

O no! People who weren't previously seen as cultured and smart are starting to! That means we're starting to lose our status! Noooooooooooooooooo!

Such is why clamoring on about culture is a silly thing, as it's based in social popularity (and all the pitfalls of that).



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13 Jan 2013, 3:47 pm

That's because so many people are afraid to be themselves these days.


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13 Jan 2013, 6:06 pm

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Foucault's approach reduces culture to a power-game, and scholarship to a kind of refereeing in the endless "struggle" between oppressed and oppressing groups.


All of public life is essentially this. This is where I agree with Marx, as well.

Just because I recognise this context, doesn't mean I can't enjoy the works of 'high culture'. It's just another way of thinking about it. It's not fake.



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13 Jan 2013, 6:50 pm

I agree with kx250rider.

Absolutely.

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23 Jan 2015, 10:36 am

Whenever anyone says something is corrupted I just have to wonder if they don't just mean its changing and they don't like it.



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25 Jan 2015, 1:30 am

Meh. Sounds like he just doesn't like the new faces at the country club. And, I'd bet that a lot of his friends partake in 'elevated' subjects for little reason other than that's the culture they grew up in and identify with (and that they pat each other on the back about). Maybe part of their culture is in fact believing that the have the best taste and the best understanding of "The Truth."



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21 Feb 2015, 5:55 am

Desurage wrote:
Whenever anyone says something is corrupted I just have to wonder if they don't just mean its changing and they don't like it.



I don't think this is the case at all.
Changing labels and symbols is one thing, but changing the content or order of the logic gates contained within is something else entirely, and that IS corruption, and of course many people recognize that and do not like it.

Science is a great example where most of the labels have remained the same in order to preserve perceived "credibility" to the public, but the actual mechanisms within have been severely corrupted by political pressures and money.



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21 Feb 2015, 10:26 am

The universities are merely taking the example of religious institutions - tell the same lies often enough, and people will not only believe the lies, but will invent their own lies to support the ones they already believe.

I fear that a new "Dark Age" will soon be upon us.


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