Page 1 of 2 [ 21 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

kalli889
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

User avatar

Joined: 7 Oct 2013
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 48

13 Oct 2013, 5:21 am

+1 on googling "food sensitivities and schizophrenia."

I personally eat a high-fat gluten-free and dairy-free diet, and it keeps my mood even and stable. I feel really pleasant and happy eating this way. For every change I made in my diet, I thought, "I could never do that! I could never give up bread/dairy/etc." I thought people who did were nuts. Then I'd meet other people who had given up bread or dairy or whatever and saw the improvement it made in their lives and functionality, and I'd test it out. That being said, SOME PEOPLE DO JUST FINE WITH BREAD AND DAIRY. What works for me does not apply to everyone. I am only relating what has been helpful for me.

Alson 2006, I met an amazing autistic woman named Chou Chou Scantlin who mentioned that she ate a high-fat diet, which piqued my interest. She had an array of health problems in addition to autism, and healed herself with a change of diet.

Autism and ketogenic diets:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evo ... enic-diets

See the comment from Chou Chou about high-fat and her autism:
http://nourishinghope.com/2007/04/high_quality_an/

An interview with Chou Chou:
http://emmashopebook.com/2012/09/25/per ... chou-chou/

I get most of my fats from fatty fish, uncured bacon, sausage, deviled eggs, coconut oil, almond butter and duck fat. I cook with duck fat and try to avoid vegetable oil. When I was eating dairy, one of my daily meals was a bacon caesar salad or a salmon caesar salad. I also have coconut oil in coffee or chocolate teecino...AND IT'S LIKE HEAVEN. It's so silky.

Be warned! My last year has been down the rabbit hole of dietary interventions for mood! Definitely my primary obsession for a long time...it's fascinating stuff!



kalli889
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

User avatar

Joined: 7 Oct 2013
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 48

13 Oct 2013, 10:21 pm

Several studies suggested a relationship between Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity (NCGS) and neuropsychiatric disorders, particularly autism and schizophrenia. The first case reports of NCGS in children have been described. Lack of biomarkers is still a major limitation of clinical studies, making it difficult to differentiate NCGS from other gluten related disorders. Recent studies raised the possibility that, beside gluten, wheat amylase-trypsin inhibitors and low-fermentable, poorly-absorbed, short-chain carbohydrates can contribute to symptoms (at least those related to IBS) experienced by NCGS patients. In this paper we report the major advances and current trends on NCGS.

http://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/5/10/3839



antonflew
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

User avatar

Joined: 15 Oct 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 2

19 Oct 2013, 6:57 pm

kalli889 wrote:
What works for me does not apply to everyone. I am only relating what has been helpful for me.
..... She had an array of health problems in addition to autism, and healed herself with a change of diet.
...it's fascinating stuff!


Yes. This. I'm seeing an awful lot of "not seeing the forest for the trees" here. It's a very unfortunate thing to say that gluten isn't the reason for your broken brain -- lots of gluten trees blocking the view there...

Sure, it's very trendy to be gluten free, and lately everyone's been cutting out bread and preaching the gospel of how going "gluten-free" has cured them of their athletes foot or bad back(the latter being caused by lack of mobility rather than overindulgence of donuts...)

Problem is, MOST gluten-free stories are annecdotal. Now, I LOVE a good anecdotal story -- since most succes stories dealing with diet and brain function are just that -- but you have to filter all of this information.

I would agree that perhaps gluten really isn't the culprit here -- for most. But what are people actually DOING when they go gluten free? They cut out a massive amount of carbs (usually). Also, lots of gluten foods come with a glorious dose of sugar (back to the donuts again...). My point is, there are SO many factors with diet. Is this a reason to dismiss all this "diet therapy"? Hell no. It's just the beginning of an exciting journey that I think is worth just about anyone's time who walks around wondering if their brain could work just a little bit better and without the side effects of drugs.

And that's just gluten. That doesn't even begin to go into the list of other foods that might bother you: peanuts, soy, corn, nightshades, lactose, casein, strawberries, chocolate...it goes on, and it only gets more depressing.

Some "experts" think sugar is the devil. Others say all grains have absolutely no business in a human body. A lot of these people are fanatics and slightly insane but again, take in the information, filter it, and see how you fit into the big picture. You can look for studies, but they're not really out there. Anecdotal information is so important right now in this field, 'cause at least it can give you a rough roadmap. The path of healing (or slightly improving) your brain with food is very personal, and each person must travel alone. The most dangerous and discouraging thing you can say is "food has no effect on my brain". That's just silly. You are what you eat has never been truer.



bumble
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Mar 2011
Age: 48
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,073

05 Nov 2013, 5:30 pm

Urist wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
Sarah81 wrote:
The theory that mental disorders are linked to gluten or other allergies is fallacious. It is widely circulated by the natural health industry in western countries in order to sell more products. Any improvement noted by someone as a result of a diet change is most likely coincidental. A good friend of mine, who is intelligent but not scientifically minded, did her 'resesarch' and recently went through the process of removing gluten from her diet in order to alleviate her depression. She has been doing it for a long time now and it has not made any difference whatsoever, except to give her a feeling of control over the depression.
Gluten makes no difference to my mood either. I recently went to another country and ate exclusively wheat. The only difference that a vegetarian diet with lots of pulses and grains made (plenty of milk too), is that I became physically healthier and lost a lot of weight.
People who do not have an understanding of maths and science will always be easily fooled by clever narratives and stories.


Question is, before she eliminated gluten (which I haven't yet btw), did she confirm that she was, in fact, allergic to gluten? I think it makes perfect sense that someone who is not allergic to gluten may get no benefit from removing it from their diet.


Gluten is completely harmless the vast majority of humans.


You would be surprised actually, celiac disease is remarkably common. It's in my family as is diabetes type 2.

I benefit from removing gluten it seems but I am still testing things out there. I certainly get less IBS.

Celiac disease, however, is of the most misdiagnosed disorders of today.



legomyego
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 31 Mar 2012
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 313

06 Nov 2013, 11:16 pm

i wasn't always allergic to wheat....i believe it is because i had a "special" interest (still don't get whats so special about it) in beer and so I spent a small fortune for a year or two...maybe three =/- buying expensive beers to try all the beers i could get my hands on.....i believe due to the massive amounts of force fed wheat...well not really force fed but just fed a lot quicker then was normal for my body or any body led to my subsequent allergy.

i do have add, autism, dysthymia, ocd, recurrent major depression



pensieve
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Nov 2008
Age: 38
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,204
Location: Sydney, Australia

07 Nov 2013, 1:05 am

Hmm...

Gluten intolerance causing borderline personality disorder and bipolar disorder?

Mentioned the symptoms as children having tantrums...

Why am I even here?

Oh, to mention how ridiculous this all sounds.

Certain food can make mood issues and ADHD and even autism worse, but take the food away and you either still have the symptoms or the disorder/illness was never actually there and it was just a food allergy.

Personally for me, the pill and Ritalin gave me these mood disorders as a very terrible and permanent side effect.

Say what you want to other people and they are free to listen to you and take your advice, but anyone that directly comes to me and says my bipolar is a cause of my poor eating habits can basically STFU and GFTS. People that say that don't even know how non-functional I can be on a bad diet. I have to eat a significant amount of healthy food just to get through life like a normal person who just ate a whole pizza for breakfast. Pizza puts me into a coma by the way. Not a food coma. It makes me feel damn lethargic and unmotivated.

By the way, fish makes me manic.

And coffee can make people with bipolar manic and rapid cycling. It's a stimulant!

My God, did everyone suffer brain trauma in this thread?

If only it was as simple as just changing my diet and exercising. I have to go back in time and never take any form of medication, ever.


_________________
My band photography blog - http://lostthroughthelens.wordpress.com/
My personal blog - http://helptheywantmetosocialise.wordpress.com/