Racially segregated prom in small Georgian town

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There are still some backward places in the US unfortunately. It's kind of a weird story tho since these "proms" are essentially private parties. I support what the students are doing in hosting their own integrated prom, let the racists sit off by themselves.

If they're private parties, then they have every right to say that people aren't allowed in them.

Doesn't stop me from thinking that they are bigoted scumbags though - and I would say the same if they had done that to gays, Muslims, Jews, Scousers (yup, even Scousers), or people with ginger hair.

Although we agree that they are scumbags, we differ in the conclusion that is evident. A person cannot be rejected from anything based on their color skin. The guy at the door of a night club who choses who gets in, may chose who enters the club, as long as his criteria aren't based solely on the color of the skin. If the club has the policy of "no blacks here", it should be subject to a lawsuit. It's the same thing with golf courses who don't accept jews. They exist in the US. Just because it's private, doesn't mean they can discriminate who ever they want.

Would the members of the Beatles be considered "Scousers"?

Being an American Ive never heard the term 'Scouser" before, but I've had heard that the name of the Liverpool dialect spoken by the Beatles is called "Scouse".

Yes, a Scouser is a person from Liverpool. The Beatles don't speak with particularly strong accents. The guy with the blue shirt is speaking in a stereotypical Scouse accent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIt1xgiZ96U though there are those who speak with stronger accents still.

Other terms for people from cities/regions in the UK:
A person from Newcastle is a "Geordie"
A person from East London is a "Cockney" (there's actually a more specific definition but it is usually used more broadly)
A person from Sunderland is a "Mackem"
A person from Birmingham is a "Brummie" and a person from Manchester is a "Manc"

There are more, but they're generally quite obvious, like "Manc".

Woollyback?

I know in other countries they have "Human Rights Commissions" and laws that dictate what you can say and do. In America we have freedom of thought and speech, there are worst things in the world than hurt feelings. There are good people and bad people, censoring them doesn't change what's under the surface. We're all individuals and government should treat as such, groupism and the governments heavy hand to correct injustices only leads to resentment. The only way to change people is to make the moral argument, to win the hearts and minds.

Forcibly integrating private gatherings is a pretty funny idea tho, that will really shake up next Christmas.

Hurt feelings? You are the country that is most PC in the world! Just as an example, I remember seeing Oprah saying "va j j" instead of vagina, when clearly vagina was the most apropriate term. I see late night talk show hosts that get frustrated when a guest says f*ck (oh my!). You have the designations of F bomb and the N word and the C word. What is apropriate is to let people say what the hell they want as long as it isn't against the law, such as difamation. However, difamation includes racial hate speech. And why should it be different with discrimination against people based solely on their skin color?

Nobody is talking about forcibly integrating private parties. People invite whoever they want. I don't think the government can do much if a racist guy is trowing a party at home and decides to refuse to let a black coworker enter the party just because he's black. However, if a party is specificaly announced to be held just for white people and the black people are escorted to the outside if they show up, that is a whole different thing! There should be laws protecting minorities from these disgusting acts. And, of course, a law has to have criteria which allow for it to be proven that a black person was excluded from something just because he was black.

A final and very important consideration: many americans think that freedom equates with lack of limitation, particularly in economic matters. The truth is that it's not a linear relation "the less limitations we have, the more freedom we have". Too much limitations is opression by the state, we can agree on that. But what many americans don't realise is that too little limitation results in opression by corporations. Both are undesirable. There must be a balance in the amount of limitations a nation has.

I've never heard that... I'm guessing Welsh?

Googled and it is St. Helens. I'm guessing it is more commonly used up in Lancashire.

I cant understand what normal talking has to do with "having no freedom of thought". So yes, we have these comissions as you say. That isnt influencing my freedom of thought and speech in no way. The only thing that is influenced is my being forced to act as human intelligent person that is respecting other persons.

As example, I am completely free to say what I think: So the actual discussion in the USA, reagarding the decontrol of the "pill afterwards" that has to be taken within 72 hours, is for me hard to understand. So there seem to be lots of abortion opponents that are completely against it. But I do not understand their oppinions. So I understand that they are against abortions, I agree that abortion should be at least taken more serious in some cases. But the "pill afterwards" isnt aborting a child, it prevents the unfertilized ovum of the female to nist into their cervix, and so the sperms cant connect with the ovum. So no connection of sperms and ovum = no baby or fetus = no abortion. I think many abortion opponents, needs to increase their knowlegde about this medicament.

This are my thoughts and I am free to say them as I want. What I am not free to say is to use my freedom of speech as an idiotic excuse to misbehave, threatening and dumb insults. As example: "Uuuuugha....abortions opponent idiots. Dont know anything. Should be blown up. All crazy. Ughugh. Because republican idiots. Best kill them, because dont use brain anyway, so no loss.... Huahuahuhua...."

Freedom of thought and speech has nothing to do with a freedom of dumbness. You are absolutely free to tell everyone about your thoughts. If you are not able to do so without threatening or insulting people, you might ask 6 years old to teach you, they are normally already capable to do so.