Is saying "someone is autistic" offensive?

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08 May 2013, 2:20 pm

I read a touching story today in CNN about a 13 year old girl with HFA who has learned to deal with bullies and social issues by playing clarinet in her school band. Here's the link.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/health/au ... pt=hp_bn13

What stuck me as interesting is the comment her mother made to a poster. "When you say, “autistic” children, it says a lot about the way you see those children. They are children with ASD."

Hmm. I'd hate to get berated for using the term. I've used it myself. Is it offensive?



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08 May 2013, 2:22 pm

This has been a big controversy. Still, a lot of self-advocates, seem to prefer just saying "autistic," including Autistic Hoya and ASAN. I would use "autistic" by default, but otherwise defer to one's preference.



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08 May 2013, 2:32 pm

i take it as a complement (i get goosebumps whenever someone says that i am).

you might as well be proud because it is not like we have a choice.


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08 May 2013, 2:33 pm

It is considered politically correct using "person first" language among NTs. Most self-advocates don't like it as we do not have autism, we are autistic. Excuse my appropriation, but it is akin to saying that someone "has blackness". Then again, some people put no thought into it.



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08 May 2013, 2:35 pm

beneficii wrote:
This has been a big controversy. Still, a lot of self-advocates, seem to prefer just saying "autistic," including Autistic Hoya and ASAN. I would use "autistic" by default, but otherwise defer to one's preference.


This.

I think if the majority of the people with x condition think that it should be called y, then calling it y isn't offensive, calling it z when the majority prefer y is offensive. Unless of course a person has stated, no, I don't like y, I prefer z.

I think whether or not you think 'autistic' is an offensive word says a lot about how you feel about autism.



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08 May 2013, 2:36 pm

Anomiel wrote:
It is considered politically correct using "person first" language among NTs. Most self-advocates don't like it as we do not have autism, we are autistic. Excuse my appropriation, but it is akin to saying that someone "has blackness". Then again, some people put no thought into it.


It's an issue. Since different organizations/"kingdoms" have different views on the matter, it's pretty much....know your audience.


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08 May 2013, 2:37 pm

I don't even understand why anyone cares.



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08 May 2013, 2:40 pm

AgentPalpatine wrote:
Anomiel wrote:
It is considered politically correct using "person first" language among NTs. Most self-advocates don't like it as we do not have autism, we are autistic. Excuse my appropriation, but it is akin to saying that someone "has blackness". Then again, some people put no thought into it.


It's an issue. Since different organizations/"kingdoms" have different views on the matter, it's pretty much....know your audience.


Yep. I second what beneficii said about preferences.



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08 May 2013, 2:43 pm

What annoys me is that people on the news always seem to say so and so suffers from autism or Asperger's syndrome. It predisposes that we are wrong and inferior. What is wrong with saying he/she is autistic or aspergergic?



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08 May 2013, 2:44 pm

I think the only person this "says a lot about" is the person being offended by the use of the term "autistic". Some people are professional victims and go seeking offence wherever they can find it. Their lives aren't complete unless there is some kind of interpersonal strife in which they can take the self-perceived moral high-ground and feel all smug and self-satisfied about it. I think you found one of those people.



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08 May 2013, 2:51 pm

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What annoys me is that people on the news always seem to say so and so suffers from autism or Asperger's syndrome. It predisposes that we are wrong and inferior. What is wrong with saying he/she is autistic or aspergergic?


Oh, I agree with you there. That's language that I would like to see go out the door.

One issue I see there is that it does'nt work with a general audience, "person with Asperger's" is as far as you can go and still get your audience to understand. "She's an Aspie" really won't work with a general audience. Not yet at least.


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08 May 2013, 2:59 pm

UDG wrote:
What annoys me is that people on the news always seem to say so and so suffers from autism or Asperger's syndrome. It predisposes that we are wrong and inferior. What is wrong with saying he/she is autistic or aspergergic?


I saw the word 'suffer' in an entry for 'autism' in my dictionary. I was offended. :(


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08 May 2013, 3:01 pm

AgentPalpatine wrote:
UDG wrote:
What annoys me is that people on the news always seem to say so and so suffers from autism or Asperger's syndrome. It predisposes that we are wrong and inferior. What is wrong with saying he/she is autistic or aspergergic?


Oh, I agree with you there. That's language that I would like to see go out the door.

One issue I see there is that it does'nt work with a general audience, "person with Asperger's" is as far as you can go and still get your audience to understand. "She's an Aspie" really won't work with a general audience. Not yet at least.


The audience thing is just a question of familiarity; if they heard it enough people would get it.



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08 May 2013, 3:04 pm

54together wrote:
UDG wrote:
What annoys me is that people on the news always seem to say so and so suffers from autism or Asperger's syndrome. It predisposes that we are wrong and inferior. What is wrong with saying he/she is autistic or aspergergic?


I saw the word 'suffer' in an entry for 'autism' in my dictionary. I was offended. :(


I don't know how tv people find the aspies we see on tv, but if I was ever one of them I would make a point of making this point.



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08 May 2013, 3:09 pm

I don't find the term "autistic" to be offensive at all. Frankly, I think that mother should thicken her skin a little bit; someone who calls another person "autistic" is just making a statement.



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08 May 2013, 3:16 pm

DarkRain wrote:
I don't find the term "autistic" to be offensive at all. Frankly, I think that mother should thicken her skin a little bit; someone who calls another person "autistic" is just making a statement.


Yes, I agree. I think she has it the wrong way round as Anomiel has pointed out.