The Middle Eastern Thread (RE:RE: How to talk to Asian Gals)

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^^^ The fundamentalism didn't work 800 years ago, why do these people believe it will work now? It's more or less the problem with any kind of fundamentalist; they won't listen to reason.

It doesn't sound like people are happy there, just like everybody is doing everything to spite and please others?

I spoke to a guy from Croatia once and he told me that everybody is still holding on to grudges like who killed who's dad in what war... so I can't see people moving on either if that is enforced on them.

I am supposed to be taking a break but saw this as I was about to close the window.

I dated a man from Algeria while I was in college. I met him somewhere out & he was speaking French (ironic, huh?) & thought he was from France. So, I talked to him back & he was really interesting. He was brilliant, actually, & studying to be an engineer. I dated him only briefly & he seemed very sweet, open-hearted, & strong. He wasn't very religious. He wanted me to marry him. He was nervous to bring it up, because he said that because of his family's status & wealth, that even though polygamy wasn't the norm where he lived, it was expected & the economically responsible thing to do, and, that I would be the first wife. After a little thought, I determined it was mighty early to get into that discussion... we weren't even officially going out...but since it was so important to him, I had to tell him I couldn't imagine living with an ocean between my parents and me. He said they would move there, of course.... Don't be crazy... He said that his family would provide housing & they would have good easy lives. He said, "Actually, you probably don't want to stay here. It won't always be good here. All of you will be glad later for it if you come with us." Looking back, since this was before 9/11, I didn't know if he had heard anything from someone or if he just knew his economics & saw which way things would go here. Maybe he just meant financially the money my parents had would go further there. To this day, I have no idea what he meant. My parents would never, ever leave America, so that was definitely not going to happen.

My mom was a little upset because she'd seen "Not Without My Daughter," which was set in Iran not Algeria. She was afraid if I went I would never come back. It may have been better if I'd introduced them, because they are nice people. I'm 99% sure Farouk had no plan to kidnap or harm me. =)

I was so sad when after I said I couldn't marry him, he disappeared & wasn't my friend anymore. He said he was heartbroken and couldn't talk to me, but I didn't understand. I liked him so much because he was so blunt & just said what he meant. I still wonder what he's up to & hope he is a happy.

I used to work with a guy from Iraq, back in the early 80s before Iraq was the bad guy. He was so hot and so nice and I wanted to go out with him so bad but he never asked me out. He was a player though and had lots of dates with lots of really pretty girls. He was completely out of my league.

I think Middle Eastern, Greek, Italian, Indian (both American and from India) guys are really hot. I like the dark look usually. I think every guy I've ever dated except two at least had dark hair. My ex husband was blonde and I dated one guy for a month or so that was blonde but he was honestly just too nice. When I say too nice I mean just overly accommodating. Always buying me stuff, taking me to all these nice places, he had lots of money and all but I didn't want him to spend his money on me, I just wanted us to go out and have fun. He didn't seem to be a very relaxed or fun type though.

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btw Moonrise, this man has lied to you.

It's not socially expected for men in Algeria to have multiple wives, in fact it's quite socially unacceptable in the whole Meghreb area. Unless he was one of the most few fundies.

A typical Algerian woman would have poked him in the eye for suggesting so.

Among Arab countries, Polygyny is only common in Saudi Arabia and some Gulf states. According to wikipedia, poly marriage constitute only 1–3% of all marriages in the Islamic world, it might be higher due to unregistered marriages but can't be by so much.

Among ALL my muslim surrounding, of Shia and Sunni alike, Family, friends, acquaintances, colleagues, coworkers, neighbors, I know only ONE case of poly marriage, a relative of mine, and he's not happy in both marriages. lol He's often mocked in the village where he lives and referred as "the man with the two wives", he's quite a celeb there for this, the first wive's family lately is trying again to make him divorces their daughter. They do happen but it leads to divorce in most cases or the first marriage becomes only "an obligation for him to pay children's expenses" rather a real marriage, locally the term used is "he married on her" in the same tone as "he cheated on her".

In Egypt, there was a comedy-drama sitcom called "Al Mutwalli" about a man with four wives, it was a hit there because it was so unusual, it wouldn't have been a hit if it was a common practice.


Funnily enough, poly marriage is quite high among muslim immigrants in Europe, higher than any local society, it seems European immigration agencies have this talent of importing the filth from our world.

Great job Europe!! *thumbs up*

^^^ Isn't that done to specifically dodge immigration laws? There have been cases of someone marrying just so the spouse could get residence. Anyway, as far as I know poly marriages have no legal standing in European countries. In the Netherlands it is impossible to get married as long as you are still married to someone else. I know someone who wanted to divorce his wife because they had been separated for 10 years and he wanted to marry someone else, but he had great difficulty getting a divorce, so he could not marry his new girlfriend.
Of course, if a man just lives with multiple wives without getting married to them, no one is going to stop them.

Oh, I just found this article: First trio "married" in the Netherlands

Meanwhile in the Netherlands polygamy has been legalised in all but name. Last Friday the first civil union of three partners was registered. Victor de Bruijn (46) from Roosendaal “married” both Bianca (31) and Mirjam (35) in a ceremony before a notary who duly registered their civil union.

Asked by journalists to tell the secret of their peculiar relationship, Victor explained that there is no jealousy between them. “But this is because Mirjam and Bianca are bisexual. I think that with two heterosexual women it would be more difficult.”

This isn't an immigrant from the Middle East, they all have very Dutch-sounding names. It is a civil union, not a real marriage. I never knew this was possible. As long as people enter into it of their own free will I'm fine with it though.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiYspAFR9GE[/youtube]

A sample of the lost art of Iranian music. The first is more traditional (yet modernized), the second vid is pure pop songs.

Don't ask me about the words, it's in Farsi

I should learn Farsi/Urdu :-/

Arabic oldies (instrumental)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp3Jr33sLVM[/youtube]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/sham ... ang-jailed

This gives an idea.

There is this, too:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ystem.html

I can vouch for Blackburn being very, very mosque heavy. It feels aggressively imperialist in many areas.