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18 May 2013, 12:07 pm

“In the famous game of chicken, two drivers hurtle their cars toward each other, and the one who turns away at the last minute loses. Or they collide, and both lose even bigger, or they both swerve and have reciprocal embarrassment. Before you play this game, you might make a matrix of your actions (stay the course vs. swerve) against the opponent's actions (same two choices), and see what happens with the four different possible outcomes. But then imagine that your opponent is omniscient. He knows just what you are going to do. Surprisingly, this restricts the results of the game in unexpected ways so that you cannot lose. If your opponent is omniscient, all you have to do is to stay the course. He will know that you are not going to swerve, and (assuming that he does not want a collision), he will have to be the one to do the swerving himself. You win whenever you play chicken with an omniscient being!”
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http://www.amazon.com/Paradox-God-Scien ... 1403964572
Other mind blowers!! !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRn_GNcglKo
Remember that there are at least 15 dimensions!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyTxCsIXE4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmwwrGV_aiE
The last video mentioned that we live in exponential times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_ ... rd_problem
“On the entire chessboard there would be 264 − 1 = 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 grains of rice, weighing 461,168,602,000 metric tons, which would be a heap of rice larger than Mount Everest. This is around 1,000 times the global production of rice in 2010 (464,000,000 metric tons).”
From the site above
In other words, since technology increases exponentially, comparing our current technology to the technology of the very near future will be like comparing Mount Everest to a grain of rice!! !


Anyone have any other mind blowing info?


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18 May 2013, 12:34 pm

There are over 100,000,000,000 stars per galaxy. There are over 100,000,000,000 galaxies. That means that if there is only 1 star per 100,000,000,000 with a planet that has intelligent life, there are over 100,000,000,000 planets with intelligent life!! !
What does 100,000,000,000 look like?
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18 May 2013, 1:23 pm

Thanks for the chicken game. It was awsome! :)



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19 May 2013, 4:23 am

If you're playing chicken with an omniscient being, they will also know that you are playing. They will know exactly how to rattle you to make you swerve or, if you really cannot be influenced in that way, that you are a mindless lunatic and they won't even play the game. It's also very hard to get into these games in the first place, as those omniscients are sneaky enough to know when and how they come about so they can avoid them.

There's also the significant risk that the omniscient being you're charging at is also omnipotent. If this is the case, they have no need to swerve - they will leave the collision without a scratch, while you will have become a smear on their windscreen.



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19 May 2013, 8:09 am

Even if your opponent is not omniscient, you can use the same trick if you convincingly lock your car’s steering so it’s clear you won’t swerve and couldn’t even if you were to change your mind.



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19 May 2013, 8:49 am

Imagine you have 52 decks of 52 cards apiece, and one of the decks has red backs, while the rest have blue backs. If you throw them all in a giant sack, shake them around for a while, pull them all out in a giant pile and put them randomly into 52 card decks again, it is very likely that most decks will contain at least one red-backed card.

This might not be so surprising, but it applies to other situations. For example, there are roughly the same number of molecules of air in a breath as there are breaths in the whole atmosphere. Because the wind shakes things up quite a bit, it is basically certain that you, at some point, have breathed one of the very same air molecules that was in Julius Caesar's last dying breath.

Also, at least a bit of the blood coursing through your veins right now contains water molecules that have gone through both ends of dinosaur.


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19 May 2013, 8:51 am

Thom_Fuleri wrote:
If you're playing chicken with an omniscient being, they will also know that you are playing. They will know exactly how to rattle you to make you swerve or, if you really cannot be influenced in that way, that you are a mindless lunatic and they won't even play the game. It's also very hard to get into these games in the first place, as those omniscients are sneaky enough to know when and how they come about so they can avoid them.

There's also the significant risk that the omniscient being you're charging at is also omnipotent. If this is the case, they have no need to swerve - they will leave the collision without a scratch, while you will have become a smear on their windscreen.


I think, rather than have an omniscient being, have someone with only full knowledge of what you are about to do in the chicken game. Then it would apply.

As you said, omniscience => omnipotence as well. Because if you know everything, you also know how to do everything.



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19 May 2013, 8:59 am

The omniscient being would come prepared driving a SemiTruck.



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19 May 2013, 12:34 pm

That is like saying ," I can beat Bobby Fischer at chess if I bring a shot gun to the game." The shot gun does not change the fact that Bobby Fischer is better at chess then I am.


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19 May 2013, 12:50 pm

Throw out the steering wheel. Then floor it.

Just remember to *show* people that you threw out the steering wheel.

Otherwise, you'll end up with this (starts at 3:45):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmCKJi3CKGE[/youtube]



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21 May 2013, 9:08 am

Thanks for posting this.

The next time I hang with God- I will just persuade him to get into his '57 Chevy and play chicken with me.

Trouble is- since he's omnineiscent -he will KNOW that I'm trying to scam him.

So...THANKS FOR NOTHIN'!



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21 May 2013, 9:13 am

MCalavera wrote:
Thom_Fuleri wrote:
If you're playing chicken with an omniscient being, they will also know that you are playing. They will know exactly how to rattle you to make you swerve or, if you really cannot be influenced in that way, that you are a mindless lunatic and they won't even play the game. It's also very hard to get into these games in the first place, as those omniscients are sneaky enough to know when and how they come about so they can avoid them.

There's also the significant risk that the omniscient being you're charging at is also omnipotent. If this is the case, they have no need to swerve - they will leave the collision without a scratch, while you will have become a smear on their windscreen.


I think, rather than have an omniscient being, have someone with only full knowledge of what you are about to do in the chicken game. Then it would apply.

As you said, omniscience => omnipotence as well. Because if you know everything, you also know how to do everything.

You might know how to do everything, but that doesn't mean you can do it. Some things just might not be possible, or might be beyond your body, or require extra materials.



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21 May 2013, 9:19 am

Whether a god-like all knowing being- or a mere mortal who has full knowledge of what you're going to do ( perhaps because they observed you toss your steering wheel out the window) they will not agree to even play in the first place because they know you're going to win.



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21 May 2013, 10:28 am

What if you play chicken with an omniscient being that you don't know is omniscient? You won't know that it knows what you're going to do so you might swerve. If the omniscient being knows you are going to swerve because you don't know s/he's omniscient the omniscient being will win.



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21 May 2013, 11:09 am

physicsnut42 wrote:
Imagine you have 52 decks of 52 cards apiece, and one of the decks has red backs, while the rest have blue backs. If you throw them all in a giant sack, shake them around for a while, pull them all out in a giant pile and put them randomly into 52 card decks again, it is very likely that most decks will contain at least one red-backed card.

This might not be so surprising, but it applies to other situations. For example, there are roughly the same number of molecules of air in a breath as there are breaths in the whole atmosphere. Because the wind shakes things up quite a bit, it is basically certain that you, at some point, have breathed one of the very same air molecules that was in Julius Caesar's last dying breath.

Also, at least a bit of the blood coursing through your veins right now contains water molecules that have gone through both ends of dinosaur.


Gold gets melted down and recyled.

Some of the gold in your wedding ring, or in your tooth fillings, or in your computer that you're using right now, probably belonged to the Incas, or to Solomon, or to the queen of Sheba.



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21 May 2013, 4:00 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
physicsnut42 wrote:
Imagine you have 52 decks of 52 cards apiece, and one of the decks has red backs, while the rest have blue backs. If you throw them all in a giant sack, shake them around for a while, pull them all out in a giant pile and put them randomly into 52 card decks again, it is very likely that most decks will contain at least one red-backed card.

This might not be so surprising, but it applies to other situations. For example, there are roughly the same number of molecules of air in a breath as there are breaths in the whole atmosphere. Because the wind shakes things up quite a bit, it is basically certain that you, at some point, have breathed one of the very same air molecules that was in Julius Caesar's last dying breath.

Also, at least a bit of the blood coursing through your veins right now contains water molecules that have gone through both ends of dinosaur.


Gold gets melted down and recyled.

Some of the gold in your wedding ring, or in your tooth fillings, or in your computer that you're using right now, probably belonged to the Incas, or to Solomon, or to the queen of Sheba.


I never thought about that!
On a slightly related note, depending on where your roots are, you're probably a direct descendant of some far-off historical figure. For example, if you're Italian, it's likely that you're distantly related to Julius Caesar (he seems to be a very mind-blowing sort of guy).
Your most distant, long-lost relative (within the human species) alive today is your roughly 40th cousin.

On an unrelated note, if you shrunk the Earth down to the size of a billiard ball, it would be smoother than a real one.


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