Will the neurodiversity movement ever be as popular as LGBT

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29 Jun 2013, 10:06 pm

So, here's a question I was thinking: with the recent SCOTUS decision of same-sex marriage and the fight to end discrimination against gays, lesbians and others, will the neurodiversity movement ever gain the same kind of traction the gay rights movement has over the years.

Over the years gays have made strives in accessing their rights and ending discrimination in the workplace, housing, etc., but I feel that now it is our turn to achieve the same kind of things that the gay rights movement is achieving.

What are your thoughts on this?

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29 Jun 2013, 10:47 pm

gays are 10% of the population. we are 1%. perhaps if we banded together with other groups , we'd have a better chance.

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29 Jun 2013, 10:52 pm

Making accommodations for people like us in the workplace would be nice. I don't know how that would work, though. I'm employed in a place where the traffic/noise/call bells/distractions are continuous. Toning that down seems impractical.

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29 Jun 2013, 11:04 pm

cathylynn wrote:

gays are 10% of the population. we are 1%. perhaps if we banded together with other groups , we'd have a better chance.

Yes, But being gay is a choice. being neurodiverse however is not.

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29 Jun 2013, 11:11 pm

cathylynn wrote:

gays are 10% of the population. we are 1%. perhaps if we banded together with other groups , we'd have a better chance.

As long as autism is considered a disorder, you will never succeed at it.

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29 Jun 2013, 11:12 pm

LupaLuna wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

gays are 10% of the population. we are 1%. perhaps if we banded together with other groups , we'd have a better chance.

Yes, But being gay is a choice. being neurodiverse however is not.

I don't see how being gay is a choice. I couldn't be anything other than heterosexual, not a choice. I just am not sexually attracted to females. I was born this way. I have sometimes wished I were gay, because I got along with my mom and three sisters, but had a scary dad. relationships with women were just easier. i'm happily married now, but it took a lot of growing on my part and a special guy.

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29 Jun 2013, 11:52 pm

I used to wonder why there weren't any Autism Pride parades...and then I realized how hard it would be for a bunch of Autistic people to 1) get together 2) decide to have the parade 3) organize the parade 4) set it up so they could legally have the parade and 5) actually HAVE the parade.
Unfortunately for us, most of us would have difficulty making such a movement "popular" just by our nature. It's a lot more than just numbers.

cathylynn wrote:

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cathylynn wrote:

gays are 10% of the population. we are 1%. perhaps if we banded together with other groups , we'd have a better chance.

Yes, But being gay is a choice. being neurodiverse however is not.

Don't pay attention to this troll. It's not worth it.

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29 Jun 2013, 11:57 pm

My first thought...the 10% v.s. 1% thing. Exactly.
We'll never be as popular. It's just not gonna happen.

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30 Jun 2013, 12:19 am

MoonCanvas wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

gays are 10% of the population. we are 1%. perhaps if we banded together with other groups , we'd have a better chance.

As long as autism is considered a disorder, you will never succeed at it.

what about disability advocacy groups?

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30 Jun 2013, 12:39 am

diniesaur wrote:

Without speaking to the rest of the thread, according to This WP thread, there is a parade. KenG should be able to provide more information on it.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5167549.html#5167549

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30 Jun 2013, 12:42 am

MoonCanvas wants us all to believe that autism doesn't exist.

I think the best bet if you want to work toward acceptance is to do disability advocacy work and not necessarily autism-related or neurodiversity-related work.

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30 Jun 2013, 4:28 am

Verdandi wrote:

MoonCanvas is NT, according to his profile. He's no better than Mike Savage or Rush Limbaugh.

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30 Jun 2013, 4:43 am

Meistersinger wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

MoonCanvas is NT, according to his profile. He's no better than Mike Savage or Rush Limbaugh.

Well I'd be more inclined to make autism less broad, and if someone with issues is still not able to be diagnosed with the new autism then they get diagnosed with something else. Most definitely things would be better off if brain scans could determine autism, which current scans can't show. Once autism can be viewable by brain scans, it might not be called autism anymore, just autism2.

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30 Jun 2013, 5:22 am

LupaLuna wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

gays are 10% of the population. we are 1%. perhaps if we banded together with other groups , we'd have a better chance.

Yes, But being gay is a choice. being neurodiverse however is not.

being autistic IS a choice just snap out of it and be normal i mean you've only been that way from childhood/birth.

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30 Jun 2013, 5:32 am

cathylynn wrote:

gays are 10% of the population. we are 1%. perhaps if we banded together with other groups , we'd have a better chance.

If you count bisexuals in there, then there's more than 10% of the population - but they mostly only count us in as lip service.

Aspies would need to band together with other neurodiverse conditions - if we got all the dyslexia lobbyists in (I work in education and there is like a dyslexia lobby) we'd have a decent number.

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30 Jun 2013, 7:18 am

cathylynn wrote:

gays are 10% of the population. we are 1%. perhaps if we banded together with other groups , we'd have a better chance.

Actually, they aren't even 2% of the population.

However, they are more visible and more "celebrated" than autistic people are.

Maybe if we were prone to be fabulous hairdressers and fashion designers, we'd get more positive attention rather than regarded as an object of pity.

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