How come there was no autism prior to a century ago?

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07 Jul 2013, 4:50 pm

Ok, say that Fnord is right, and we're not the next step in human evolution, or indigo children, or neanderthals, nor do vaccines cause autism. If so, then how come there was no autism prior to about 80-100 years ago? Autistics have such distinctive behaviors that something should have been recognized before the coining of the word "autism" around 1912, but it wasn't. Researchers have noted that most autistics are young, there are few elderly autistics. In addition, autism went from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 100 since the late 80s. Some of that is better diagnosis, but I doubt all of it is. Anthropologists have looked for autism as well as mental illness in primitive tribes and found none. It's possible that like osteoporosis, autism is a disease of industrial/post-industrial society. Post-industrial societies like Japan have all sorts of weird mental illnesses, like the hikikomori and rampant asexuality/homosexuality. There have always been asexuals and gays, it just seems like there's a LOT more nowadays. Some of that is the promoting of gay lifestyles in the media, but not all. It's a fact that as Rome decayed the Romans got more and more bizarre, with all sorts of perverted cults springing up. It would seem that as a civilization goes down the drain, that people go nuts. Is it pollution causing changes in humans? Is it all the chemicals we eat? Is it the stuff in the water? Any ideas?



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07 Jul 2013, 4:54 pm

Thomas Jefferson might've been autistic. Your argument is invalid.

OP, check this out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrospec ... _of_autism



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07 Jul 2013, 4:56 pm

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07 Jul 2013, 5:06 pm

Autistic people did exist, and were identified. They were simply not called autistic at the time. They were either categorized as "mentally deficient" or lazy, etc. if they weren't obvious. The occurrence also has not been increasing - rather, diagnostic criteria have been refined and more children are being caught all the time. What you're looking at is in increase in awareness, research, and overall knowledge about the condition.



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07 Jul 2013, 5:13 pm

It wasn't considered a mental illness nor identified as one till the 1970s if my memory serves me right.


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07 Jul 2013, 5:13 pm

Autism has always been around. It's just that it was called something different in the olden days.


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07 Jul 2013, 5:15 pm

well as you said some is better diagnosis many with the milder forms before the 90s were frequently mis diagnosed it wssnt until 96 or so aspergers becacame better known. Add to that anoyone with a more severe form was hospitalized and forgotten generally labled with other mental ilnesses and or the R word. ontop of that you also need to see how the criteria for autism has evolved over time

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DSM I (1952)

000-x28 Schizophrenic reaction, childhood type

Here will be classified those schizophrenic reactions occurring before puberty. The clinical picture may differ from schizophrenic reactions occurring in other age periods because of the immaturity and plasticity of the patient at the time of onset of the reaction. Psychotic reactions in children, manifesting primarily autism, will be classified here.

DSM II (1968)
[autism was not mentioned; the word appears only under the following category]

295.8 Schizophrenia, childhood type

This category is for cases in which schizophrenic symptoms appear before puberty. The condition may be manifested by autistic, atypical and withdrawn behavior; failure to develop identity separate from the mother's; and general unevenness, gross immaturity and inadequacy of development. These developmental defects may result in mental retardation, which should also be diagnosed.
DSM III (1980)

Diagnostic criteria for Infantile Autism

A. Onset before 30 months of age

B. Pervasive lack of responsiveness to other people (autism)

C. Gross deficits in language development

D. If speech is present, peculiar speech patterns such as immediate and delayed echolalia, metaphorical language, pronominal reversal.

E. Bizarre responses to various aspects of the environment, e.g., resistance to change, peculiar interest in or attachments to animate or inanimate objects.

F. Absence of delusions, hallucinations, loosening of associations, and incoherence as in Schizophrenia.

DSM III-R (1987)

Diagnostic Criteria for Autistic Disorder

At least eight of the following sixteen items are present, these to include at least two items from A, one from B, and one from C.

A. Qualitative impairment in reciprocal social interaction (the examples within parentheses are arranged so that those first listed are more likely to apply to younger or more disabled, and the later ones, to older or less disabled) as manifested by the following:

1.Marked lack of awareness of the existence or feelings of others (for example, treats a person as if that person were a piece of furniture; does not notice another person's distress; apparently has no concept of the need of others for privacy);

2. No or abnormal seeking of comfort at times of distress (for example, does not come for comfort even when ill, hurt, or tired; seeks comfort in a stereotyped way, for example, says "cheese, cheese, cheese" whenever hurt);

3. No or impaired imitation (for example, does not wave bye-bye; does not copy parent's domestic activities; mechanical imitation of others' actions out of context);

4. No or abnormal social play (for example, does not actively participate in simple games; refers solitary play activities; involves other children in play only as mechanical aids); and

5. Gross impairment in ability to make peer friendships (for example, no interest in making peer friendships despite interest in making fiends, demonstrates lack of understanding of conventions of social interaction, for example, reads phone book to uninterested peer.

B. Qualitative impairment in verbal and nonverbal communication and in imaginative activity, (the numbered items are arranged so that those first listed are more likely to apply to younger or more disabled, and the later ones, to older or less disabled) as manifested by the following:

1. No mode of communication, such as: communicative babbling, facial expression, gesture, mime, or spoken language;

2. Markedly abnormal nonverbal communication, as in the use of eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, or gestures to initiate or modulate social interaction (for example, does not anticipate being held, stiffens when held, does not look at the person or smile when making a social approach, does not greet parents or visitors, has a fixed stare in social situations);

3. Absence of imaginative activity, such as play-acting of adult roles, fantasy character or animals; lack of interest in stories about imaginary events;

4. Marked abnormalities in the production of speech, including volume, pitch, stress, rate, rhythm, and intonation (for example, monotonous tone, question-like melody, or high pitch);

5. Marked abnormalities in the form or content of speech, including stereotyped and repetitive use of speech (for example, immediate echolalia or mechanical repetition of a television commercial); use of "you" when "I" is meant (for example, using "You want cookie?" to mean "I want a cookie"); idiosyncratic use of words or phrases (for example, "Go on green riding" to mean "I want to go on the swing"); or frequent irrelevant remarks (for example, starts talking about train schedules during a conversation about ports); and

6. Marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others, despite adequate speech (for example, indulging in lengthy monologues on one subject regardless of interjections from others);

C. Markedly restricted repertoire of activities and interests as manifested by the following:

1. Stereotyped body movements (for example, hand flicking or twisting, spinning, head-banging, complex whole-body movements);

2. Persistent preoccupation with parts of objects (for example, sniffing or smelling objects, repetitive feeling of texture of materials, spinning wheels of toy cars) or attachment to unusual objects (for example, insists on carrying around a piece of string);

3. Marked distress over changes in trivial aspects of environment (for example, when a vase is moved from usual position);

4. Unreasonable insistence on following routines in precise detail (for example, insisting that exactly the same route always be followed when shopping);

5. Markedly restricted range of interests and a preoccupation with one narrow interest, e.g., interested only in lining up objects, in amassing facts about meteorology, or in pretending to be a fantasy character.


D. Onset during infancy or early childhood

Specify if childhood onset (after 36 months of age)

DSM-IV (1994) and DSM-IVR (2000)

299.00 Autistic Disorder

A total of six (or more) items from (1), (2), and (3), with at least two from (1), and one each from (2) and (3):
Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction.
failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest)
lack of social or emotional reciprocity
Qualitative impairments in communication as manifested by at least one of the following:
delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language (not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative modes of communication such as gesture or mime)
in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others
stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language
lack of varied spontaneous make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level
Restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least of one of the following:
encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole body movements)
persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
Delays or abnormal functioning in at least one of the following areas, with onset prior to age 3 years: (1) social interaction, (2) language as used in social communication, or (3) symbolic or imaginative play.
The disturbance is not better accounted for by Rett's disorder or childhood disintegrative disorder.
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and then the DSM5 which is done really welll


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07 Jul 2013, 5:19 pm

pezar wrote:
Ok, say that Fnord is right, and we're not the next step in human evolution, or indigo children, or neanderthals, nor do vaccines cause autism. If so, then how come there was no autism prior to about 80-100 years ago? Autistics have such distinctive behaviors that something should have been recognized before the coining of the word "autism" around 1912, but it wasn't. Researchers have noted that most autistics are young, there are few elderly autistics. In addition, autism went from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 100 since the late 80s. Some of that is better diagnosis, but I doubt all of it is. Anthropologists have looked for autism as well as mental illness in primitive tribes and found none. It's possible that like osteoporosis, autism is a disease of industrial/post-industrial society. Post-industrial societies like Japan have all sorts of weird mental illnesses, like the hikikomori and rampant asexuality/homosexuality. There have always been asexuals and gays, it just seems like there's a LOT more nowadays. Some of that is the promoting of gay lifestyles in the media, but not all. It's a fact that as Rome decayed the Romans got more and more bizarre, with all sorts of perverted cults springing up. It would seem that as a civilization goes down the drain, that people go nuts. Is it pollution causing changes in humans? Is it all the chemicals we eat? Is it the stuff in the water? Any ideas?


Firstly, the human race is very diverse, more so than any distinctions based on colour, creed or culture. Even if you went back to the ancients of the British Isles more than a millennia, there was no distinct specific identifiable race. Therefore any differences would have just been part of the norm, and would have been accepted.
There was no diagnosis of Autism or Asperger's until the middle of last century at the earliest, and as there would have been few experienced and qualified enough to diagnose, many would have lived their entire lives without a formal or even informal diagnosis - ASD didn't just appear, it was always there but not identified.
Anthropologists' have not and will not find evidence, as the distinctive differences are in the ASD brain - this organ breaks down quite quickly in not preserved, and most cultures did not care to preserve human brains, focusing instead on preserving the body or skeletons.
Any historical references to ASD symptoms are likely to be in relation to either their gifts - wise men, medicine men, sages, shamans etc, or their difficulties, which may be seen as demonic possession, madness, or mental frailty, as there was no concept of what caused people to be different.
In ancient times I would expect many would simply have been left to die, or may have been subject to human sacrifice to the gods of the day.

Diagnosis has been better in the past 30 years and continues to improve, however for the most part, the severely affected tend to be the ones that are identified, and as it appears to run in families, one would not consider another family member to be very different if there were others undiagnosed with ASD symptoms within the family.
A parent is not going to send their child for diagnosis of ASD if they themselves feel they are coping ok and see the same symptoms in their child - normal is a subjective judgement.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that post industrial modern culture has created a spike in cases of ASD, so much as the modern lifestyle has made it more obvious.
Modern foods, household chemicals, perfumes and noises are known to be things that those on the spectrum are sensitive to, so I would expect in many cases it's the sensitivity to these things that makes it more noticeable, and seems to require some remedial action.
100 years ago the world did not have so many of these products, food was more natural, and people were not exposed to additives, preservatives, and artificial chemicals to the extent we are now.

Another thing to consider is that those of us that are different in any way tend to keep this to ourselves whenever possible, as it doesn't take long to figure that life will be difficult for you if you can't blend in.
So many of us have learned to adapt, feigning eye contact, learning to pay closer attention to visual cues, and to keep our meltdowns to our private time at home.
The modern era of email, social media, mobile phones, Skype and the like has also made it easier for ASD people to just do most stuff from home without having to interact in public the way their parents would have; think of the teenager with the computer in their room that hardly leaves the house - this would have been odd 20 years ago, but ordinary today.

Many of us literally spend the day bottling our emotions and reactions, and reach a point where we just melt down and cant' cope any more.
Those of us that can do so hold it in as long as we can, and keep our meltdowns private, though sometimes we have to let it out.
Likely many cases of road rage, drunken violence, and people being lost in the wilderness are results of this.

So; is it the chemicals, the stuff the water, climate change etc? - Not entirely, but you can bet is all plays a role in contributing to unmasking the symptoms many of us try to hide.
It doesn't cause the rise in cases of ASD - which may be a matter of conjecture - I just think people are electing to be diagnosed these days, severe cases of ASD are not being institutionalised as frequently so are more visible, and that diagnostic tools are improving, so we are coming out of the woodwork - some by choice, and some by force.

One thing is for certain though - ASD is much more of a hindrance in modern post industrialist society, as it's so busy, crowded, noisy, and so much exposure to irritants. In less developed countries you would find your share of people on the ASD spectrum, and with the gifts we have, in other cultures we are seen as ideal for the roles of shamans, monks, witch doctors, and sages.
The tools we have are very useful, but the weaknesses we have are exposed in modern society, to make things harder for us, and therefore make us easier to notice.



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07 Jul 2013, 5:44 pm

A century ago people were more isolated and less educated. There was less common knowledge about was normal and what was not normal in child behavior and development. Some children were slower to develop language or other skills, but as long as they could talk before they entered first grade that was good enough. There was no preschool or kindergarten then so they had plenty of time. More severely autistic children would be considered mentally ret*d (whether they were or not) and possibly placed in an institution, for those who were not institutionalized there was a place for them in small town communities. Life was more simple then, it was rare for anyone to have more than a high school education. There was no television connecting people to the norms of social behavior. There were different people, eccentric people, schizophrenic people, shy people, crazy people, you name it. Some of them were autistic. Autistic people were always here.
Autism became more visible when it was defined and the label was created.



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07 Jul 2013, 5:53 pm

I wonder if some people burned at the stake for witchcraft/sorcery centuries ago were actually autistic. Echolalia and stimming could look very much like casting spells.



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07 Jul 2013, 5:56 pm

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I wonder if some people burned at the stake for witchcraft/sorcery centuries ago were actually autistic. Echolalia and stimming could look very much like casting spells.


Not really comparable to witch trials, but I remember once I was playing Dungeons & Dragons with people who had a tendency to drag real world mannerisms into the roleplay when it gave them an excuse to do something horrible. I recall that I was stimming with my hands (I don't remember exactly what I was doing) and one of the other players accused my character of casting a spell on his character and then tried to kill my character.

Weird.



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07 Jul 2013, 6:25 pm

My Uncle probably had Autism or Aspergers, he has all the traits, and for example used to stim all the time. but since those diagnosis were unheard of back in the 50's he was simply labelled as being backward and spent most of his youth in mental institutions. Autism has always been around it just wasn't widely recognised until the eighties.

You might as well ask why no-one was diagnosed with schizophrenia before the 19th century!

Edit: or any other mental / neurological disorder come to that.


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07 Jul 2013, 6:36 pm

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Researchers have noted that most autistics are young, there are few elderly autistics.


Well, I've never seen any validated research that said that, they seem to just ignore the possibility, but there most certainly are elderly Autistics. I'm 54 now and other that Ted Danson laughing at the term "Ass-Burgers" on an episode of Becker, I had never heard of it until someone called my attention to a web article. I suspect that a great many adults now diagnosed with High Functioning Autism would never have heard of it if not for the Internet. One of the things that convinced me early on that vaccines were not involved, is the fact that my Grandmother on my Dad's side exhibited pretty much ALL of the same behavioral characteristics of HFA that I do, and she went to school in a one-room country school house years before there were vaccines of any kind.

When I went through the US public school system in the 60s and 70s, nobody was looking for Autism, so unless it was a severe case of Classical Low-Functioning Autism, it just went right under the radar. In those days, you were either normal or you were ret*d and that was it. They had a few remedial classes here and there for the "dumb" kids, but if you had an unusually sophisticated vocabulary, or specialized obsessive interests, or poor social skills you were just a Nerd or a Geek and the system had no special classification for that.

It wasn't until the mid to late 70s that school systems began to identify things like dyslexia, so my sister, 9 years behind me, got help with her handicap, while I struggled my way to High School Graduation with no recognition whatsoever that I was having a problem. I was constantly told I was lazy, stubborn, obstinate, intentionally obtuse and a goof-off slacker when I tried to tell parents and teachers that I couldn't do everything the same way the rest of the class was doing it. "You're plenty smart enough, if you'd just apply yourself" was the mantra they tattooed on my forehead. But I DID apply myself. I could just only apply myself to the things that made sense to ME, and in ways that I could absorb. Everything else just washed over me in an incomprehensible wave and disappeared. Fortunately, I loved to read and easily absorbed information off the page, so I was usually well ahead of my peers and could skate by on test scores, without having to do homework (except in math, which almost kept me from graduating).

I got lucky enough to fall into a career, while still in High School, that allowed me to spend my days in a room all alone, playing records and talking to myself and get paid for it, but my poor social skills insured that I never kept a job for very long. I was good at what I did, but lousy at sucking up to superiors. Eventually, the march of technology made that career obsolete and left me with a very limited skill set at an age where employers start to pass you over just for having survived so long. Even retraining for a new career became a fiasco, when I continually encountered discrimination because of my Autistic handicaps. Small minds just cannot abide someone they perceive as an oddball.

Which is my point (and you thought I didn't have one). There have always been Autistic people, in fact, in a more sedate and pastoral society - like the one of a mere hundred years ago, and certainly before, quiet, awkward, nerdy people did not stand out so much as they do now. When they did, they were just 'eccentric' or 'a character' - no one considered that they might have a neurological dysfunction (and thank gods, because they'd probably have been subjected to lobotomies). In the days before our current fast-paced, technological civilization and a society built on social manipulation and office politics, a mild-mannered Aspie would have gone largely unnoticed. In fact, in the world of a hundred years ago (or more), we would have fit in just fine in most respects.

Unfortunately, in today's society, which is like a giant game of SURVIVOR, with all the cliques and hostile, manipulative tribal social behaviors required just to keep a job, its easy for someone with poor social skills to end up homeless. So we stand out like sore thumbs, but we aren't new. Just momentarily sidelined by social expectation. Now we have to be identified, classified, codified as a minority group and form advocacy groups in order to be re-accepted into human society. Great - political advocacy - the one thing we suck worst at. :roll:



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07 Jul 2013, 6:43 pm

I actually believe that it may be more people on the spectrum today than it was 200+ years ago. (No scientific data to back any of this up, though).
Considering the probability of a certain genetic component (many people on the spectrum have blood relatives also on the spectrum), it seems likely that the people who were consideder weirdo's and crazy and hermits (as some of us undoubtedly did) didn't have a chance to procreate. Though ASD is not a mortal disease, I see a certain correlation to type I diabetes. Most type I's just didn't survive to procreate, limiting the genes for the disease in the genepool.

Also, as has been mentioned previously, there are probably a much higher amount of stimuli to trigger sensory overloads in the modern world than in the pre-industrial rural societies. Being a little odd and having full-blown meltdowns from time to time outside the house due to traffic or the train schedual are going to be percieved very differently by the NT's.



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07 Jul 2013, 6:57 pm

pezar wrote:
Ok, say that Fnord is right, and we're not the next step in human evolution, or indigo children, or neanderthals, nor do vaccines cause autism.

Of course Fnord is right! We're not the next step in human evolution, we're not "Indigo Children", we're not Neanderthals, and vaccines do not cause Autism.

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If so, then how come there was no autism prior to about 80-100 years ago?

Because you haven't looked hard enough. There has always been autism, but it hasn't always been recognized as a medical disorder.

A few examples of autistic symptoms and treatments were described long before autism was named. The Table Talk of Martin Luther (1483-1546), compiled by his notetaker, Mathesius (1504-1565), contains the story of a 12-year-old boy who may have been severely autistic.[1] Luther reportedly thought the boy was a soulless mass of flesh possessed by the devil, and suggested that he be suffocated, although a later critic has cast doubt on the veracity of this report.[2] The earliest well-documented case of autism is that of Hugh Blair of Borgue, as detailed in a 1747 court case in which his brother successfully petitioned to annul Blair's marriage to gain Blair's inheritance.[3] The Wild Boy of Aveyron, a feral child caught in 1798, showed several signs of autism; the medical student Jean Itard treated him with a behavioral program designed to help him form social attachments and to induce speech via imitation.[4]

The New Latin word autismus (English translation autism) was coined by the Swiss psychiatrist Eugen Bleuler in 1910 as he was defining symptoms of schizophrenia. He derived it from the Greek word autós (αὐτός, meaning self), and used it to mean morbid self-admiration, referring to "autistic withdrawal of the patient to his fantasies, against which any influence from outside becomes an intolerable disturbance".[5]

The word autism first took its modern sense in 1938 when Hans Asperger of the Vienna University Hospital adopted Bleuler's terminology autistic psychopaths in a lecture in German about child psychology.[6] Asperger was investigating an ASD now known as Asperger syndrome, though for various reasons it was not widely recognized as a separate diagnosis until 1981.[4] Leo Kanner of the Johns Hopkins Hospital first used autism in its modern sense in English when he introduced the label early infantile autism in a 1943 report of 11 children with striking behavioral similarities.[34] Almost all the characteristics described in Kanner's first paper on the subject, notably "autistic aloneness" and "insistence on sameness", are still regarded as typical of the autistic spectrum of disorders.[49] It is not known whether Kanner derived the term independently of Asperger.[7]

Kanner's reuse of autism led to decades of confused terminology like infantile schizophrenia, and child psychiatry's focus on maternal deprivation led to misconceptions of autism as an infant's response to "refrigerator mothers". Starting in the late 1960s autism was established as a separate syndrome by demonstrating that it is lifelong, distinguishing it from mental retardation and schizophrenia and from other developmental disorders, and demonstrating the benefits of involving parents in active programs of therapy.[8] As late as the mid-1970s there was little evidence of a genetic role in autism; now it is thought to be one of the most heritable of all psychiatric conditions.[9] Although the rise of parent organizations and the destigmatization of childhood ASD have deeply affected how we view ASD,[4] parents continue to feel social stigma in situations where their autistic children's behaviors are perceived negatively by others,[10] and many primary care physicians and medical specialists still express some beliefs consistent with outdated autism research.[11]

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07 Jul 2013, 6:59 pm

LOL Verdandi.

You remind me that when we played D&D, for a several years our groups would almost always end up killing one another at the end of a module.

I'm confident Autism has always existed in the community. As Marybird points out, isloation and lack of education would likely have been a primary factors in not recognising mental disorders. Come to think of it, even if they suspected such a thing, nobody would openly voice such a thing unless the person was severe.

In my parents day (50's to 60's); mom went to year 8, dad went to year 7 then joined the army. The population was significantly less, with dirt roads and bulluck teams. My grand father cut and formed many of the road corridors that now exist. So there wasn't even roads existing in my grand fathers day.