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13 Jul 2013, 6:41 am

The fun part of these psychology-related issues is how multi-faceted they are. All I can say is that things like hair twirling and sensual tones are very easy to pick up, but don't seem to be used nearly enough for whatever the reason may be.

It does seem kind of depressing that women are apparently going out with men they aren't attracted to, though, which only seems to reinforce the idea that women only truly have eyes for the best.



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13 Jul 2013, 7:08 am

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It does seem kind of depressing that women are apparently going out with men they aren't attracted to, though, which only seems to reinforce the idea that women only truly have eyes for the best.


That could so easily be said of men as well - although apparently men go out with women primarily on the basis of how attractive they are, rather than having other reasons for going out with them, like intellectual stimulation or money :twisted:



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13 Jul 2013, 7:30 am

Shau wrote:
It does seem kind of depressing that women are apparently going out with men they aren't attracted to, though, which only seems to reinforce the idea that women only truly have eyes for the best.


For the majority, men, the same as women - always have an eye out for that top 5% or more, and will take the chance if it comes along. But both of them also accept average, or the equivalent level of wherever they perceive themselves to be at (which can be problematic for less self aware individuals) or what they deem to be compatible.


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13 Jul 2013, 7:58 am

I'm talking more like, if what is in their "league" isn't even enough to get them showing all the signs of flirtation, it would seem to indicate that these relationships aren't really filled with passion and lust. IN other words, that unless you're lucky enough to have nabbed one of that illustrious 5%, you're never really even that into your relationship. I truly hope this isn't the case!

It seems different from how men seem to be able to go more than crazy for their much lower than that 5% girlfriends, but the women they're with don't seem to go as crazy as they do.



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13 Jul 2013, 8:44 am

They can and sometimes will, just not always - a lot of women still look to do better than where they are at as the minimum (as do men, I should add). Remember that a lot of flirting and dating goes nowhere anyway - you don't know how many of these you are seeing end up being dead ends or end very quickly, which is probably the majority in cases like that where there isn't enough interest. Whether or not it will last is a whole other question. Men do the same thing though - take the chance when they get it.

A good example from the other night: There is one guy there I am ridiculously attracted to (physically, but his personality too). I can't hide it despite I've been trying. He knows it.But I will never go out with him. He's already lied to me more than once. And he isn't trustworthy. His friend is also extremely attractive physically too, his personality much more so. The difference is, he doesn't lie, is extremely trustworthy, and is very kind. Obviously in such a situation, anyone with sense is going to choose the latter. Maybe the physical attraction and certain personality traits aren't to the point that they are totally overwhelming, but they are still very strong and considering it's still a much better, and much smarter choice. And before anybody starts feeling bad for the first guy: don't, he has 3 other women, and one he ditched just this week, while the other currently has none and hasn't for a while. (and note I haven't done anything about this situation yet, this is merely a fair period of time of observation)

In essence, they are probably going with these guys for reasons other than attractiveness (despite most of the men here complain the good looking alpha men get all the girls). It's a bit strange on one hand to complain that they only go after alpha guys, and then complain that they are going out with guys that aren't soaking wet for because they are being logical enough to consider other important factors which you usually complain are overlooked like kindness and trustworthiness.


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13 Jul 2013, 9:18 am

To be fair, I'm not complaining about women going out with guys they aren't soaking wet for, in fact I find it to be a little depressing. I'd take it over the alternative, though: The harem-building that very sexy men are capable of. One subset of positive characteristics having all the sexual success doesn't bode well for humanity, so I'll happily be wrong here and hope you're right.



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13 Jul 2013, 9:28 am

A lot of women who end up being with such a guy that you described as "very sexy", end up hooking up with other guys too during the same period of time that they're seeing them, not just one guy since they are fully aware he's going to do that. Most of them are smart enough to know and play the same game (although they would probably never admit it to anyone except their best friend). You're not looking at harems as much as you are multiple ongoing hook ups with other people from both sides.

And many other women just stay away from them altogether due to pre-mentioned issues that tend to go with it - if they can see or work out what the deal is.

And those who don't work out what the deal is usually find out and get hurt and it doesn't usually last long, usually these are the minority though.


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13 Jul 2013, 7:55 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

You're overweight, he's overweight too.
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