Middle England must listen to Tommy Robinson

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Wait, is this the same Tommy Robinson who recently beat his chest about not having "read any books"?

The man is a carpet bagger, and not a particularly convincing one either.

You can be a very intelligent person without being a bookworm or even really without reading a book. I've met such people. There are different kinds of intelligence.

There are those that are extremely intelligent - geniuses, in fact - but know very little as regards to how to function in day to day life.

Then there are those that are extremely streetwise and very good operators indeed who rarely read, and perhaps might not even be able to read and write.

I understand the point that some try to make, but if Robinson was an Islamic scholar, regarded as an authority on the religion with many decades of study under his belt, people would still ignore him. Much as they do with Robert Spencer. (I don't always agree with Spencer, but his knowledge of the Quran is second to none.)

As for the article: I agree with parts of it and disagree with others. He's a brave man for doing what he does (the hassle and threats of violence he and his family receive must be immense). I wouldn't want to do his job.

I don't get your tactic of posting these links without reference or making your own opinions on the subject known.

Maybe it's just a flame war?

As much as I dislike Cameron and his cronies, I don't feel that his and 'Robinson's' criminal records compare that well.

If you ignore 'Robinson's' politically motivated convictions he still has the following against his name(s):

Multiple assault convictions including on his partner, resisting arrest, football hooliganism, attempted fraud and traveling on false documents.
(2005 - 2010)

Do you trust this guy?

Do you trust many of the politicians today that come from admittedly dodgy backgrounds? Like, for instance, Maajid Nawaz of Quilliam? Or Ed Husain (I'm not completely happy with him due to his comments on Hirsi Ali)? Or any number of Islamists (or perhaps even Christian fundamentalists) who have renounced hatred?

As for the false documents thing in particular - I mocked him for it. He got what he deserved.

If you can think of someone better who could lead the EDL (and would be willing to do it) with all their imperfections (and there are many), let us know.

As for the article: I think a lot of it's basically right, but it's written in a far too syrupy, sugary-sweet way that makes me nauseous. I commend Robinson's courage (I wouldn't think that even an Islamist deserves the treatment he has suffered) but I think I wish he was something that he was not. I broadly agree with his message, although I do not agree with some of the EDL's demands for censorship (like of the poppy burners).

I understand where Lennon's coming from, but I fear that his lack of knowledge of Islam - such that the likes of Ibn Warraq or Patricia Crone possesses - will not help him.

No.



No again.



Sorry, I got nothing here either.