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10 Aug 2013, 4:22 am

In France a law has been passed that makes sexual harassment punishable by up to 3 years in jail or a 45000 Euro fine. This has been met with a lot of praise from Feminist communities, and it's an overall good thing that should come to other countries?

Sexual harassment is defined as "any unwanted or unwelcome sexual behaviour, which makes a person feel offended, humiliated or intimidated." (humanrights.gov.au)

Non neurotypical people will often make others in their lives uncomfortable by misinterpreting hints, missing signals etc. Harassment can be unintentional, especially when no explicit signals of discomfort (eg saying something out loud) are given. It only needs to happen once, and suddenly you're one of the worst kinds of unforgivable criminal.

Part of modern feminism is to demonise every man who doesn't "understand women" and all their implicit desires, but for some people that's going to be quite difficult, and the way to signal discomfort is to be open emotionally. I don't want to be the "bad guy" by asking women to take some responsibility for their responses to harassment, but how else will accidental harm be prevented?



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10 Aug 2013, 8:37 am

Just trying to be friendly to a woman could be interpreted as sexual harassment if they think you're somewhat creepy. As long as no man in France ever interacts with a woman who they don't personally know, for non-professional purposes, they should be fine. Kind of like how in Saudi Arabia woman aren't supposed to interact with men in public, other than their husband, except it goes for men instead of women.



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10 Aug 2013, 8:41 am

Mike1 wrote:
Just trying to be friendly to a woman could be interpreted as sexual harassment if they think you're somewhat creepy. As long as no man in France ever interacts with a woman who they don't personally know, for non-professional purposes, they should be fine. Kind of like how in Saudi Arabia woman aren't supposed to interact with men in public, other than their husband, except it goes for men instead of women.


Yeah, but sexual harassment is absolutely rampant in Saudi - in part because everyone is so damn sexually repressed.



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10 Aug 2013, 9:51 am

There is a lot of gender obession in allistic people and demonising those with a broken chromosome which is what men are human with a broken chromosome that they did not ask for. A woman can pinch a bloke's arse but if the other way round then he is branded a pervert. I think that this issue should cut both ways. Why should not being able to read the simian body language of allistic people be seen as creepy or social bonding be considered socially inappropriate because of the awful broken chromosome on pair 23. and punishable by a stint of a prison sentence. Allistic society has a lot to answer for because they do a lot of things that to Aspergian people are inappropriate behaviour but allistics due to being on the neurotypical spectrum regard as essential to get on. In Aspergia, feminism would not need to exist so there is no need for such misandry. This is what I think causes gender identity disorder and transexualism in men. It can get to a point that you cannont compliment a woman becaus eshe could accuse you for sexual harassment even though may not be intended. Issues like this can be used to falsely accuse someone of gross sexual misconduct out of malice which there has been a lot of especially in women on the neurotypical spectrum to make a person look bad or falsely labelled a nonce by thickos. :idea:



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11 Aug 2013, 12:48 am

The problem I have with this kind of policy is the fact that (like most would say) the only thing a woman would have to do is make a claim and have someone else there to back her up, whether true or not, and the guy she targets would be in deep sh*t with the law.
For real cases this is a good thing, but like so many other things of this nature, it'll be abused more often than people will want to believe.

The biggest problem is going to be for those on the spectrum. Some of us unknowingly stare into space when we zone out, so now if that happens in public and some woman thinks the worst (they will, simply because we're guys and a lot of them like to stereotype us), then we're the ones who ultimately suffors the result and no matter what we say, we'll still be branded because of it.


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11 Aug 2013, 2:00 am

the French lawyers are going to be busy.