Why are guys so obsessed with losing their virginity?

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12 Aug 2013, 1:10 pm

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It's also that in the United States, having no sexual experience AND being in your 20s is made out to be a bad thing, and furthermore, an embarrassment to the virgin himself.

But it's also a reflection on my own idiosyncrasies and problems: I guess my lack of relationship experience is a reflection on having some sort of a developmental delay.


These have all been mentioned before. I've stated before, perhaps in another thread, I can't remember, that with the advent of the internet, and with all the "real love" videos being published to combat the misconceptions propagated by pornography, there is no need to discuss or admit virginity to anyone. For those of legal age, research sexual intimacy, realistic sex, true intimacy, and find resources that appear legitimate that provide information on sex, relationships, real sex versus the lies that porn teaches. You can find out the specific intimate points. The actual science versus pseudoscience, etc. You can watch how to actually engage in proper, productive foreplay.

you can find articles on how non-sexual activities within the relationship can be the precursor to foreplay. It's not exciting to think that if you faithfully take out the garbage and faithfully help with the household chores, and faithfully do little things to express love and affection, that it increases the intimacy when sex actually happens but these things are factual. Many women are more receptive to a man who considers their non-sexual needs before asking for nookie. Married women are more likely to find their husbands sexually attractive if he shares the burden of the house, and even at times takes more than his share. Before marriage, be willing to suffer "chic flicks", shopping trips, tea parties. After marriage be willing to suffer household chores, diapers, drawing her a bath and letting her soak in solitude.

No need to discuss whether your a virgin or not. If the question arises, simply state that you believe that information is irrelavent if she truly likes you and don't be drawn into the discussion. Politely decline to discuss it. Prepare with the proper knowledge, understand your own body so you know how to prepare for the actual event.

And as always, if you are a religious person, remember that God hates fornication, so save it for the marriage bed :P


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12 Aug 2013, 3:05 pm

I would say that considering how many girls/women are on the pill or taking hormonal implants to prevent pregnancy, and given the eagerness of many guys to have sex without themselves needing to bother with contraception, and the way that many guys have an excessive reluctance to ever get checked for STDs (and when some people of both sexes have a reluctance to get treated even knowing they have an STD), and the way that some STDs produce no symptoms in a carrier but could cause problems for somebody else who gets infected by them (such as infertility) , and the effectiveness of sperm as a disease carrier, there is a perfectly good reason why many people would be wanting to know their partner's sexual activity status.

I'd say that many guys who are not virgins will lie about how many sexual partners they've had, if they've been around so much that it might put a woman off.... whereas in the case of virgins, I would suspect that very few guys would claim to be a virgin if they aren't.

That said, plenty of guys who aren't virgins will diligently use barrier contraception (condoms) every time they have sex, and will go to the doctor to get checked out for STDs regularly, or if they get symptoms of a sexual problem that can't be prevented by condoms (ie crabs, etc).

And well, that's great.
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12 Aug 2013, 4:29 pm

Ladywoofwoof wrote:
I would say that considering how many girls/women are on the pill or taking hormonal implants to prevent pregnancy, and given the eagerness of many guys to have sex without themselves needing to bother with contraception, and the way that many guys have an excessive reluctance to ever get checked for STDs (and when some people of both sexes have a reluctance to get treated even knowing they have an STD), and the way that some STDs produce no symptoms in a carrier but could cause problems for somebody else who gets infected by them (such as infertility) , and the effectiveness of sperm as a disease carrier, there is a perfectly good reason why many people would be wanting to know their partner's sexual activity status.

I'd say that many guys who are not virgins will lie about how many sexual partners they've had, if they've been around so much that it might put a woman off.... whereas in the case of virgins, I would suspect that very few guys would claim to be a virgin if they aren't.

That said, plenty of guys who aren't virgins will diligently use barrier contraception (condoms) every time they have sex, and will go to the doctor to get checked out for STDs regularly, or if they get symptoms of a sexual problem that can't be prevented by condoms (ie crabs, etc).

And well, that's great.
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Good points. In some ways, sex can be a lie. That being said, for myself, the excitement of a relationship at times made me forget I had a girlfriend with sexual experience, but what put me at ease is that it wasn't a whole lot.

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you can find articles on how non-sexual activities within the relationship can be the precursor to foreplay. It's not exciting to think that if you faithfully take out the garbage and faithfully help with the household chores, and faithfully do little things to express love and affection, that it increases the intimacy when sex actually happens but these things are factual. Many women are more receptive to a man who considers their non-sexual needs before asking for nookie. Married women are more likely to find their husbands sexually attractive if he shares the burden of the house, and even at times takes more than his share. Before marriage, be willing to suffer "chic flicks", shopping trips, tea parties. After marriage be willing to suffer household chores, diapers, drawing her a bath and letting her soak in solitude.

No need to discuss whether your a virgin or not. If the question arises, simply state that you believe that information is irrelavent if she truly likes you and don't be drawn into the discussion. Politely decline to discuss it. Prepare with the proper knowledge, understand your own body so you know how to prepare for the actual event.


A few things. I've done foreplay, fingering, grinding, pretty much, everything except actual intercourse. Actually, my last ex and I agreed on a few things, one was showerpooling, something the nice folks at AXE promoted last year, of course it never got that far. And I forgot to mention I've covered the irrelevance part:

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As a rule of thumb, next relationship I'm in, I'm not going to ask about sexual histories. All I care (if I were to be in a sexual relationship) is that you're faithful (as in don't practice "friends with benefits") and don't have STD's.


Ignorance isn't bliss, but it's also very appealing.



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12 Aug 2013, 6:09 pm

FlanMaster wrote:
Northeastern292 wrote:

It's also that in the United States, having no sexual experience AND being in your 20s is made out to be a bad thing, and furthermore, an embarrassment to the virgin himself.

But it's also a reflection on my own idiosyncrasies and problems: I guess my lack of relationship experience is a reflection on having some sort of a developmental delay.


These have all been mentioned before. I've stated before, perhaps in another thread, I can't remember, that with the advent of the internet, and with all the "real love" videos being published to combat the misconceptions propagated by pornography, there is no need to discuss or admit virginity to anyone. For those of legal age, research sexual intimacy, realistic sex, true intimacy, and find resources that appear legitimate that provide information on sex, relationships, real sex versus the lies that porn teaches. You can find out the specific intimate points. The actual science versus pseudoscience, etc. You can watch how to actually engage in proper, productive foreplay.

you can find articles on how non-sexual activities within the relationship can be the precursor to foreplay. It's not exciting to think that if you faithfully take out the garbage and faithfully help with the household chores, and faithfully do little things to express love and affection, that it increases the intimacy when sex actually happens but these things are factual. Many women are more receptive to a man who considers their non-sexual needs before asking for nookie. Married women are more likely to find their husbands sexually attractive if he shares the burden of the house, and even at times takes more than his share. Before marriage, be willing to suffer "chic flicks", shopping trips, tea parties. After marriage be willing to suffer household chores, diapers, drawing her a bath and letting her soak in solitude.

No need to discuss whether your a virgin or not. If the question arises, simply state that you believe that information is irrelavent if she truly likes you and don't be drawn into the discussion. Politely decline to discuss it. Prepare with the proper knowledge, understand your own body so you know how to prepare for the actual event.

And as always, if you are a religious person, remember that God hates fornication, so save it for the marriage bed :P


How bout the good ol fashioned f**king each other and figuring out yourselves what feels good? I heard that is probably more genuine than trying what someone else does, even if it is real.


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