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29 Sep 2013, 12:28 pm

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People with Autism/Aspergers have malformed brains. It is congenital, and not an illness. Same as someone born with congenital blindness, their vision is defective, but they are not ill.

But this won't stop the ignorant masses from calling us ill.


what proof do you have of people on the spectrum having malformed brains? You're correct that it can be congenital, but not always.


Our brains do not function like normal people. thus it is abnormal, improperly wired, or malformed.
It is always congenital, what you posted is pseudo-medical nonsense. Sorry but you are deluding your self if you think you are actually "curing" your autism.


Our brains don't function like normal, correct, but you're assuming that it's the brain itself that's abnormal and I now believe that's incorrect.

It's not necessarily always congenital. Point in case that you can likely relate to: symptoms fluctuate. Sometimes throughout my life they've been very mild, others very strong. There's something that causes this effect. It's not just by magic that this happens. I believe that if others' Autism is caused by the same root cause, that it's entirely possible to take an NT person and induce Autism in them. *There may be a genetic component, so this root cause my not cause Autism in everyone who suffers from it, but this cause + genetic predisposition likely equals Autism.

I'm not deluding myself. My mental & physical symptoms have been reduced by well over 95% and I'm happier and healthier all around than I have been in my entire 31 years of life, and still improving by the day. A myriad of brain functions are operating much more optimally than ever. During times things were very bad, I had nearly every single symptom listed in Tony Attwood's Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome.. now? Not so much.

Again, I don't want anyone here to take my word for it. I'd prefer everyone was skeptical and reads what I have to share and then decide to try it for themselves to see if & how well it works for them.


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29 Sep 2013, 12:30 pm

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People with Autism/Aspergers have malformed brains. It is congenital, and not an illness. Same as someone born with congenital blindness, their vision is defective, but they are not ill.

But this won't stop the ignorant masses from calling us ill.


what proof do you have of people on the spectrum having malformed brains? You're correct that it can be congenital, but not always.


Our brains do not function like normal people. thus it is abnormal, improperly wired, or malformed.
It is always congenital, what you posted is pseudo-medical nonsense. Sorry but you are deluding your self if you think you are actually "curing" your autism.

Saying "malformed" is a matter of perspective. Yes there is no cure.


..that you're aware of.

Granted, as I said, I don't yet know if this will be complete & permanent, but the science and medicine behind it says yes. Even if it isn't, a 95-99% reduction in symptoms is damn near cure enough for most of us.. this has truly allowed me to get back to work and life in a major way, make a fresh start that I can build on and move forward with. Pretty sure that's something any of us on here would be interested in experiencing.


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29 Sep 2013, 12:40 pm

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You certainly are entitled to your opinion but considering you've shared no facts and are contradicting much scientific literature i'll have to dissagree.


I haven't shared any facts yet because, as stated, I want to see if I can completely heal myself - permanently cure all of this - before I go ahead and share. I want to know that it's complete & permanent vs. partial & temporary. So far so good.

Please do tell me what scientific literature I'm contradicting, I'm genuinely curious.

You're free to disagree with whatever you want to, but this is not my opinion, this is my experience. I'm living it and doing it. It's not an opinion with which one can agree or disagree. It just is what it is, my life & experience in reality.


One persons experience is far from a true sample of the population. Not to mention you cannot be objective about your own results. All that being said without a control how do you know what if anthing external is affecting your results? Ever heard of the placebo effect? If you eat frogs when you are sick and you get better was it the frogs? Many things to consider.

As for the research i mentioned there are mri that have shown that the autistic brain is built differently than the average brain.


That's why when I share what I've learned and am doing I hope that many many people here try it and have success themselves.

I know that what I'm doing is in fact working because what I'm doing are the only changes I've made in my life that could influence brain function and symptom reduction/elimination. I'm well aware of the placebo affect & certain that it is not at work here. My brain is literally functioning more optimally, I'm not depressed or anxious, audio sensory overload is a thing of the past, my balance/coordination/fine motor skills & ability to work ambidextrously have improved by leaps and bounds, I'm more focused than ever, my short term memory & executive functions are better than ever, every single symptom is greatly reduced/improved - and that's not just all in my head. It's very very real.

Perhaps our brain structures are different & that is the genetic component that must be present for this illness to be triggered. Perhaps our brain structures and central nervous system electrical impulses are changed and altered and can be improved via this treatment. I've seen scans of the ADHD brain showing the rolling blackouts caused by dopamine deficiency not allowing nerves to all fire across synapses, and those patterns change with dopamine & other neurotransmitter levels. Chances are good, IMO, that if one were to have scanned my brain 4+ months ago and then scanned it today it would definitely show different firing patterns of activity. People are pretty complex creatures and can be healed and changed. There's no reason to believe that a brain that isn't functioning optimally cannot be healed/changed via treatment and made to function much better. Heck, we've all read stories about musicians altering their brain structure over time to enable them to hear and do things musically that others cannot. The brain is dynamic, the Autistic brain is not permanently broken and unable to change with changing conditions.


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29 Sep 2013, 7:46 pm

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Not in my world , it isn't. It's just a different way of being. A difference that I celebrate along with the rest of my differences. That's why my theme song is what it is. There's no shame in being different.


My thoughts exactly. Well put.


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29 Sep 2013, 8:03 pm

guys I think I caught a bad case of Aspergers. Aspergers is spreading in my school like wildfire. Everybody's catching it.



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30 Sep 2013, 12:31 am

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guys I think I caught a bad case of Aspergers. Aspergers is spreading in my school like wildfire. Everybody's catching it.

Take two asprins, drink plenty of fluids and make sure you have plenty of rest.



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30 Sep 2013, 1:10 am

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guys I think I caught a bad case of Aspergers. Aspergers is spreading in my school like wildfire. Everybody's catching it.


I never said it was a communicable disease.

However, the root cause can in fact be transmitted from mother to unborn child, or even person to person via bodily fluids - but then it would take perfect conditions for it to take hold and thrive vs. being killed off by one's immune system much like common colds.


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02 Oct 2013, 4:17 am

goldfish21 wrote:
DVCal wrote:
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People with Autism/Aspergers have malformed brains. It is congenital, and not an illness. Same as someone born with congenital blindness, their vision is defective, but they are not ill.

But this won't stop the ignorant masses from calling us ill.


what proof do you have of people on the spectrum having malformed brains? You're correct that it can be congenital, but not always.


Our brains do not function like normal people. thus it is abnormal, improperly wired, or malformed.
It is always congenital, what you posted is pseudo-medical nonsense. Sorry but you are deluding your self if you think you are actually "curing" your autism.


Our brains don't function like normal, correct, but you're assuming that it's the brain itself that's abnormal and I now believe that's incorrect.

It's not necessarily always congenital. Point in case that you can likely relate to: symptoms fluctuate. Sometimes throughout my life they've been very mild, others very strong. There's something that causes this effect. It's not just by magic that this happens. I believe that if others' Autism is caused by the same root cause, that it's entirely possible to take an NT person and induce Autism in them. *There may be a genetic component, so this root cause my not cause Autism in everyone who suffers from it, but this cause + genetic predisposition likely equals Autism.

I'm not deluding myself. My mental & physical symptoms have been reduced by well over 95% and I'm happier and healthier all around than I have been in my entire 31 years of life, and still improving by the day. A myriad of brain functions are operating much more optimally than ever. During times things were very bad, I had nearly every single symptom listed in Tony Attwood's Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome.. now? Not so much.

Again, I don't want anyone here to take my word for it. I'd prefer everyone was skeptical and reads what I have to share and then decide to try it for themselves to see if & how well it works for them.


You have not shared anything but your alleged experience. It is quite possible you have discovered something that all the specialists studying this have somehow missed. It has happened before and will happen again. I just am not going to get excited over something with no evidence presented and so little odds of being true.

But when you are ready to share this wonderful information and it is true how much of my life savings is this going to cost?. You see I need to know because I know this guy in Nigeria that has this huge inheritance he is willing to share with me if I give him an advanced deposit.


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02 Oct 2013, 10:30 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
DVCal wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
DVCal wrote:
People with Autism/Aspergers have malformed brains. It is congenital, and not an illness. Same as someone born with congenital blindness, their vision is defective, but they are not ill.

But this won't stop the ignorant masses from calling us ill.


what proof do you have of people on the spectrum having malformed brains? You're correct that it can be congenital, but not always.


Our brains do not function like normal people. thus it is abnormal, improperly wired, or malformed.
It is always congenital, what you posted is pseudo-medical nonsense. Sorry but you are deluding your self if you think you are actually "curing" your autism.


Our brains don't function like normal, correct, but you're assuming that it's the brain itself that's abnormal and I now believe that's incorrect.

It's not necessarily always congenital. Point in case that you can likely relate to: symptoms fluctuate. Sometimes throughout my life they've been very mild, others very strong. There's something that causes this effect. It's not just by magic that this happens. I believe that if others' Autism is caused by the same root cause, that it's entirely possible to take an NT person and induce Autism in them. *There may be a genetic component, so this root cause my not cause Autism in everyone who suffers from it, but this cause + genetic predisposition likely equals Autism.

I'm not deluding myself. My mental & physical symptoms have been reduced by well over 95% and I'm happier and healthier all around than I have been in my entire 31 years of life, and still improving by the day. A myriad of brain functions are operating much more optimally than ever. During times things were very bad, I had nearly every single symptom listed in Tony Attwood's Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome.. now? Not so much.

Again, I don't want anyone here to take my word for it. I'd prefer everyone was skeptical and reads what I have to share and then decide to try it for themselves to see if & how well it works for them.


You have not shared anything but your alleged experience. It is quite possible you have discovered something that all the specialists studying this have somehow missed. It has happened before and will happen again. I just am not going to get excited over something with no evidence presented and so little odds of being true.

But when you are ready to share this wonderful information and it is true how much of my life savings is this going to cost?. You see I need to know because I know this guy in Nigeria that has this huge inheritance he is willing to share with me if I give him an advanced deposit.


lol I actually appreciate your skepticism, as I too would be skeptical as F about what I'm claiming w/o providing any info yet.

It's cost me approx $500/month I'd guesstimate, but most of that is simply re-allocating other funds from within my monthly budget, so the true additional cost over and above my regular living expenses is probably around $100 or so per month. It depends on what & how much money people spend their current budgets on as to how much additional money this would cost someone to do.


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08 Oct 2013, 10:51 pm

Umm... No. It's not.

There's nothing really wrong with us; we're all still human. Our brains are just wired differently than most individuals. Aspergers is not some disease that just comes and infects people...



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08 Oct 2013, 10:54 pm

FluttercordAspie93 wrote:
Umm... No. It's not.

There's nothing really wrong with us; we're all still human. Our brains are just wired differently than most individuals. Aspergers is not some disease that just comes and infects people...


what if you had the infection since birth & there is in fact a curable infection causing the neurological symptoms?


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08 Oct 2013, 11:14 pm

i'll say we are another alien race... that how it is view. we tend to have a different way of decoding the good and the bad... we like aliens to them... high level of intelligence/stealth



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08 Oct 2013, 11:40 pm

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Well explain to me in more depth why Asperger's is an illness?


Since you're in the UK, there might be some definitional confusion involved here, but back when the term had clinical meaning in the US it was defined via the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (emphasis mine). For US purposes, therefore, it was by definition one of a large group of conditions that I'd think could all reasonably be referred to by the term "illness."

Note that the most recent edition of the US DSM, DSM-5, no longer uses the term. Perhaps I've jumped the gun a bit by implying the terms "Asperger's" no longer has clinical meaning in an American context, but at best I'd have to think it is on its way out.

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I think your misguided in thinking that way.


Why? Seems reasonable to me to refer to something you'd find in a book called a Manual of Mental Disorders an illness. But, I'm only familiar with an American context. Things could certainly be different elsewhere.


I agree, eventhough the DSM-5 still uses the term "mental disorder":
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So it's per definition a "disorder".


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My employment advisor says Asperger's syndrome/autism is an illness


Why is Asperger's viewed as an illness? Do people get a misconception when they hear the word 'syndrome'????


Disease is like you have a process of organic functions progressive weakness that could result in death. Without it, Asperger is not a disease. Is very complicated to pathologize all human beings who are different than ''normal'' or majority types.
All of us have advantages and disadvantages, 25% of american people will some ''mental disorder'' during your whole life. 25% of american people are ill?? No. The cure of all ''mental disorders'' is cultural. If you have a culture to believe don't fell outside.
Other problems of aspies and other neurodiverse do not exist a ''neuro-culture'', symbols, social rules, procriation behavior, all modern society was projected to extroverted neurotypical while was created by introverted people.



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09 Oct 2013, 10:31 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
FluttercordAspie93 wrote:
Umm... No. It's not.

There's nothing really wrong with us; we're all still human. Our brains are just wired differently than most individuals. Aspergers is not some disease that just comes and infects people...


what if you had the infection since birth & there is in fact a curable infection causing the neurological symptoms?


Depends.

The cause of it is actually still being debated, but that's just the way that I view it. My neurologist doesn't like calling it a mental illness/disorder, either.



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09 Oct 2013, 11:54 pm

FluttercordAspie93 wrote:
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Umm... No. It's not.

There's nothing really wrong with us; we're all still human. Our brains are just wired differently than most individuals. Aspergers is not some disease that just comes and infects people...


what if you had the infection since birth & there is in fact a curable infection causing the neurological symptoms?


Depends.

The cause of it is actually still being debated, but that's just the way that I view it. My neurologist doesn't like calling it a mental illness/disorder, either.


Glad to see you're at least open to the possibility that it could be caused by a curable infection vs. shutting out possibilities that don't fit your beliefs perfectly.


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