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20 Oct 2013, 1:21 pm

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Not criticizing Moslems must be something unique to UK. In the USA, as far as I can tell, people don't have a whole lot of nice things to say about Islam. Particularly since 2001.

The situation in the USA is the textbook example of what I'm referring to. Rampant Muslim bashing often in lieu of racism against other specific groups. Its a similar situation in the UK and Ireland. Pakistanis, arabs and those who look like them receive the lion's share of racism because of the actions of a tiny, tiny minority. The Irish in England, were until as recently as the 70's treated rather similarly because of the IRA.

Also its 'muslims' not 'moslems'. That bastardisation of the word grinds me like the scratching of nails on a blackboard.


Yoo Hoo! What religious doctrine inspired the outrage of 9/11. You constantly overlook that when you make the Usual Excuse for Islamic madness.

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It ought to be common knowledge by now that whenever you affront muslims in one part of the world, the rest everywhere else get offended.

Thats why its a source of puzzlement to me why us westerners act all surprised whenever we bomb or invade their countries or loot their oil and we get terrorist attacks.


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20 Oct 2013, 4:54 pm

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THANKS

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But i'm shamed when i'm praised in public.


Well, more or less equal your ''rhetoric''

''is anti-semitic''

cumpliments, convince me
:roll:

So, am I to understand that you do *not* consider the concept of "Jewish Bolshevism" an anti-semitic conspiracy theory, despite the fact that only around 5 percent of the Members of The Soviet Communist Party were Jews in 1922, and that most (if not all) of the prominent Jewish members in the party were (physically) purged by Stalin?



But the majority of bolshevik leaders were jews, it is that matter.
Well, in America, the jews doesn't constitute the majority of demo-crats, but the they are the majority of leaders of the party.
Jews also created the communism.
You to say at one of your arguments that ''jews had reasons to this'', justify their actions
You whant that i refresh your memory??



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20 Oct 2013, 5:07 pm

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Jews also created the communism.


nope, it was created by A German jew with a German gentile

It wasn't a brainstorming session around a table exclusively with rabbis who went "right guys, this is how we are going to undermine the goyim's control of the means of production''.

Get your history right, pal.


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20 Oct 2013, 5:19 pm

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Well, in America, the jews doesn't constitute the majority of demo-crats, but the they are the majority of leaders of the party.

Obama- no
Biden- no
Kerry- no
Edwards- no
Gore- no
Lieberman- yes
The Clinton family- no
Dukakis- no
Mondale- no
Carter- no
Ferraro- no
Bentsen- no
Johnson- no
Humphrey- no
The Kennedy family- no

Muskie, McGovern and Shriver- all no

Those damn Jews, dominating America's second best major party! :shakes fist:



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20 Oct 2013, 5:28 pm

thomas81 wrote:
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Jews also created the communism.


nope, it was created by A German jew with a German gentile

It wasn't a brainstorming session around a table exclusively with rabbis who went "right guys, this is how we are going to undermine the goyim's control of the means of production''.

Get your history right, pal.



GERMAN jew is different than jew only, uuuufaa

No, socialism tendencies there since many early times in Europe. Many ''well-intentioned'' jews misrepresent the path that the REAL socialism should have walked. Look that the ''fabian socialism'' ( more or less this name) there since french revolution. Jews ever are overepresentative on communism movements, in America or Europe.
Are facts that you can't fight against, only accept, to facts don't exist arguments because facts are the ultimate argument, the final answer.



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20 Oct 2013, 5:40 pm

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Goddard wrote:
Well, in America, the jews doesn't constitute the majority of demo-crats, but the they are the majority of leaders of the party.

Obama- no
Biden- no
Kerry- no
Edwards- no
Gore- no
Lieberman- yes
The Clinton family- no
Dukakis- no
Mondale- no
Carter- no
Ferraro- no
Bentsen- no
Johnson- no
Humphrey- no
The Kennedy family- no

Muskie, McGovern and Shriver- all no

Those damn Jews, dominating America's second best major party! :shakes fist:



http://thezog.wordpress.com/

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20 Oct 2013, 5:47 pm

http://www.rense.com/general59/sdom.htm

Or this above, Rense is jewish.



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20 Oct 2013, 6:01 pm

You said the majority of leaders of the Democrats were Jewish. I pointed out that very few Jews get on Democratic tickets (the same number as Greek Orthodox Christians and women).

Neither of your sources seem to indicate otherwise.

I am not going to just take someone on the internet's word that the Jews are evil. So they make a lot of money. Big whoop.



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20 Oct 2013, 6:34 pm

thomas81 wrote:
Thats why its a source of puzzlement to me why us westerners act all surprised whenever we bomb or invade their countries or loot their oil and we get terrorist attacks.


Exhibit A. That's exactly the kind apologism that Pat Condell was talking about when he spoke about "progressives" making excuses for islamic terrorists and it's exactly the kind of hypocrisy I was talking about in my earlier post. By the way, it's perfectly possible believe that Taliban and Al Qaeda are a bunch of utterly evil mother-fuckers without supporting US actions in the Middle East.



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20 Oct 2013, 6:35 pm

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I am not going to just take someone on the internet's word that the Jews are evil. So they make a lot of money. Big whoop.


especially someone that keeps linking to blatantly neo-nazi websites.


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20 Oct 2013, 6:36 pm

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thomas81 wrote:
Thats why its a source of puzzlement to me why us westerners act all surprised whenever we bomb or invade their countries or loot their oil and we get terrorist attacks.


Exhibit A. That's exactly the kind apologism that Pat Condell was talking about when he spoke about "progressives" making excuses for islamic terrorists and it's exactly the kind of hypocrisy I was talking about in my earlier post. By the way, it's perfectly possible believe that Taliban and Al Qaeda are a bunch of utterly evil mother-f**** without supporting US actions in the Middle East.


Don't you think its even a little bit too coincidental to be true that we didn't really have any beef with the Islamic world between the crusades and the British mandate of Palestine for no apparent reason?

Its not like during 1946 a rat crawled up their arse that made them suddenly think out of the blue "I know, I'm going to start bombing british diplomatic interests" Incidentally, the Irgun terrorists shouldn't get off lightly for their contributions either.

Also, what if the shoe was on the other foot, where it was America with all the oil and Gadaffis Libya, Syria or Husseins Iraq with all the cash and military might who were invading the USA with their industrial military complex, their hypothetical oil corporations and hypothetical arab-centric mass media propagandising? What if the USA was mass settled by muslims claiming they had divine right to the land, and indigenous americans were relegated to California and New York State, had their utilities curtailed and a huge wall built round their territory where they were subject to internment and military border checks? Do you think for even a second the american people would just lie back and take it with acquiescence? f*****g of course not.


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20 Oct 2013, 6:38 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
You said the majority of leaders of the Democrats were Jewish. I pointed out that very few Jews get on Democratic tickets (the same number as Greek Orthodox Christians and women).

Neither of your sources seem to indicate otherwise.

I am not going to just take someone on the internet's word that the Jews are evil. So they make a lot of money. Big whoop.


Sure, in a capitalism world, make money is MUCH MORE important than anything, please, go to real world and leave to your bubble.
The difference that who make money better and who don't make money better or don't make any money, in many times, is the own death.

Many million people in America are democrat, but the majority of the most important positions inside into the democratic party are ocupied by jewish people.
Is a mix of great cognitive talent of jews and extreme abuse by part of them because they are also more ethnocentric than euro-americans.
You probably will not read the ''culture of critique'' write by Kevin McDonald, because he is known as ''anti-semitic writer'', like as ''theoric conspiracionist'' or ''racist'', SPECIALLY when you to say the true or is looking for her.
Obviously that is not all jews are devil, but there many devil psychopath jews with great intelligence and great energy to make ill.
The jewish people were the architect of ''culture of critique'', that expiate only the western european culture, with it, were invented the ''white guilty'', ''multiculturalism'' and mass immigration, extremely harmful to majority of western peoples.
Yes, the ''europeans'' commited many crimes in the past, but all peoples commited and commited crimes in the past, in the present and probably in the future.
Yes, know new cultures, embrace the diversity is good, but mass immigration destroy the culture of tolerance that create this environment.
Swedes, for example, respect the diversity, the sexual diversity and the neuro diversity, more and more, why your government need importe many millions of people who will aren't make the same, respect the individuality??
If muslins are importe to Sweeden, in the future, this country will turn a muslim country, if importe african people on millions on millions, the culture of respect, in other words, the progressive culture will disappear. What the number of countries with majority of black people that have progressive culture??
All of it is insane and make me to think
why destroy the progressive world when majority of people are compose by civilized natives europeans and minority of foreigners, already assimilated (2-3% of population)??

Leftism culture is a excuse to something greater and different than her.



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21 Oct 2013, 4:59 am

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What the number of countries with majority of black people that have progressive culture??

Correlation-causation...

What is the number of countries with a majority of black people that have a high GDP?

What is the number of countries with a low GDP that have a "progressive culture"?

Compare Belarus (very low black population) to the USA (12-13% black).



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The_Walrus wrote:
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What the number of countries with majority of black people that have progressive culture??

Correlation-causation...

What is the number of countries with a majority of black people that have a high GDP?

What is the number of countries with a low GDP that have a "progressive culture"?

Compare Belarus (very low black population) to the USA (12-13% black).


Certainly, there many belarrusian people who are 'progressive' the same way than their american counterparts.
Majority of afro-americans aren't progressives, they vote largely on Democratics by racial reasons, the same way that white ''deep south'' americans also vote to republican party.
GDP is not one good meausure for analyse personality and cognitive traits, GDP is a result of many specific traits and not the cause. Progressive people tend to be more creative than others and tend to earn more.

Progressive culture is a specific north euros invention, even in southern european countries, one a minority of the population are ''progressive or liberal''. High iq, centuries of exogamic patterns and personality traits explain better than income.



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21 Oct 2013, 7:56 am

thomas81 wrote:
Jono wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
Thats why its a source of puzzlement to me why us westerners act all surprised whenever we bomb or invade their countries or loot their oil and we get terrorist attacks.


Exhibit A. That's exactly the kind apologism that Pat Condell was talking about when he spoke about "progressives" making excuses for islamic terrorists and it's exactly the kind of hypocrisy I was talking about in my earlier post. By the way, it's perfectly possible believe that Taliban and Al Qaeda are a bunch of utterly evil mother-f**** without supporting US actions in the Middle East.


Don't you think its even a little bit too coincidental to be true that we didn't really have any beef with the Islamic world between the crusades and the British mandate of Palestine for no apparent reason?

Its not like during 1946 a rat crawled up their arse that made them suddenly think out of the blue "I know, I'm going to start bombing british diplomatic interests" Incidentally, the Irgun terrorists shouldn't get off lightly for their contributions either.

Also, what if the shoe was on the other foot, where it was America with all the oil and Gadaffis Libya, Syria or Husseins Iraq with all the cash and military might who were invading the USA with their industrial military complex, their hypothetical oil corporations and hypothetical arab-centric mass media propagandising? What if the USA was mass settled by muslims claiming they had divine right to the land, and indigenous americans were relegated to California and New York State, had their utilities curtailed and a huge wall built round their territory where they were subject to internment and military border checks? Do you think for even a second the american people would just lie back and take it with acquiescence? f***ing of course not.


I don't care or even give a damn about any of that. Do you want me to post that picture of that Afghan girl who had her nose and ears sliced off by Taliban thugs just because she tried to flee her abusive husband? Should we perhaps talk about Malala Yousafzai, that Pakistani schoolgirl who was shot in the head by the Taliban in northern Pakistan for fighting for the right of girls to get an education? (You know, the same girl who should of gotten the Nobel Peace prize this year but apparently didn't?) You simply don't get to blame all the problems in the Middle East on the actions of the US when groups like the Taliban actually throw acid into little girls faces for going to school. And the Taliban were evil long before 9/11 took place, remember that they destroyed those 2 Buddha statues in Afghanistan and used that football stadium for executions before either the invasion of Afghanistan or even 9/11 took place. By the way, Al Qaeda, the guys you are making excuses for, have an ideology that is actually based on Wahhabism, the same evil, utterly hateful sect and ideology that the Taliban support and what they use to justify what they do. Not to mention that Wahhabis believe it's totally OK to murder anyone who is not muslim. So yes, I damn well can call them evil regardless of any US actions in the Middle East. So are you still going to use "western imperialism" to excuse them? Or are you going to shut up now?



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21 Oct 2013, 8:36 am

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Again, according to the progressives, we are allowed criticise every other religion except for Islam and if criticise Islam you're a racist.
Nope. If you say nonsense like "All christians are extreme-fanatic idiots, doing attacks on doctors of abortion-hospitals." its as well a religious racism. So when it comes to generalizing prejudices about huge groups of very different beings, its in every way racistic. The irish are as well no race, but if I say idiotc nonsense like "Irish people were radical terrorists, doing bomb-attacks on little school girls." this is simply racistic nonsense.

The usage of words, describing certain amounts of people like "some", "few", "many", "most" may sound not as important to some people, but actually can be the difference between an total racistic nonsense and an statistical relevant fact. So there are very few irish people, that really did such attacks. Luckily "most" seem to be pretty normal people. Isnt that marvelous, what transformation the idiotic meaning of "Irish people were radical terrorists, doing bomb-attacks on little school girls." by only using the word "few"? So it might seem like a magic trick, but I swear, its only about the basic usage of language. :)