Why Don't Liberals Move to Europe? (Or North Korea?)

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zacb
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15 Nov 2013, 10:44 pm

If it is so great over there, why don't liberals move there? They always talk about Libertarians moving to Somalia, then why don't they practice what they preach? Maybe we should book a free one way ticket to NK or Europe. Write it off as welfare, although it will help us in the long run :D .



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15 Nov 2013, 11:01 pm

Europe would be great.

North Korea isn't quite consistent with FDR's Bill of Rights.

http://www.fdrheritage.org/bill_of_rights.htm

North Korea wouldn't be for us.



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15 Nov 2013, 11:03 pm

Tat is why I mentioned Europe. Why not just go where you are happy?



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15 Nov 2013, 11:58 pm

I don't know. Why don't you cons move to Iran?



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16 Nov 2013, 12:00 am

Mamselle wrote:
I don't know. Why don't you cons move to Iran?
Well I am not necessarily a conservative (people should be able to f**k whomever they want (as long as consent is given) ). I am just pissed at liberals saying Somalia or such. I am personally for abolishing the nation state. It is outdated and is a relic of a bygone time.



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16 Nov 2013, 12:34 am

How about Canada?



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16 Nov 2013, 1:01 am

Why Don't Liberals Move to Europe?

Because then they would no longer have anything to whine about.


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16 Nov 2013, 1:17 am

Mainly because most of Europe won't let Americans in as naturalized citizens unless you invest hundreds of thousands of dollars or are a skilled trades worker or have a high level college degree.

So no, America can't pull a Castro and put all the dissidents to American Freedom Loving Conservatism on boats to Norway and be like "Here, you take them!"

If it weren't for the option of Europe mostly not wanting non-EU people in it, I'm sure many more people would be going there, including American liberals who work as Starbucks baristas or part time doing graphics for websites or something. And also probably the minorities we had as slaves until 1863 and were segregated until the 60s, and had plans like LBJ's Great Society ruin every last bit of everything they ever had. They'd probably wanna go to Europe too if they got a free ticket.

So the only way Europe will let mass amounts of Americans in is as refugees if we have another civil war. Basically it.



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16 Nov 2013, 1:53 am

So how is it many European countries are stuck with many Muslim immigrants while American have such a hard time moving there?



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16 Nov 2013, 2:32 am

VIDEODROME wrote:
So how is it many European countries are stuck with many Muslim immigrants while American have such a hard time moving there?


I'd imagine

a) There's a decent amount of Muslim professionals who can meet skill needs.
b) In the case of France, colonial ties to certain majority Muslim nations factor in.


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16 Nov 2013, 2:34 am

Damnit.

The French sent people over for the Revolution. Doesn't that create some ties over here?



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16 Nov 2013, 2:34 am

BTW, immigration to North Korea is heavily regulated.


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16 Nov 2013, 4:00 am

Watched that documentary on the DPRK last might.

It appears that a lot more information is getting in, more people than before have access to media, and the peasants are a lot less observant and unquestioning than they used to be.

How awful. What a shame for fat boy.



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16 Nov 2013, 4:02 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
BTW, immigration to North Korea is heavily regulated.


That's a bit like the most disgusting and repellent young woman in town not offering anyone sex.

No loss.



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16 Nov 2013, 4:05 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
VIDEODROME wrote:
So how is it many European countries are stuck with many Muslim immigrants while American have such a hard time moving there?


I'd imagine

a) There's a decent amount of Muslim professionals who can meet skill needs.
b) In the case of France, colonial ties to certain majority Muslim nations factor in.


I offer Sweden, Denmark and Norway.