Men should start judging women's success too.

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The_Face_of_Boo
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05 Dec 2013, 4:33 am

This is a good letter to all malekind.

http://www.businessinsider.com/men-shou ... men-2013-6



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05 Dec 2013, 4:43 am

I've already read the article—and hopefully, most men agree with it's message.



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05 Dec 2013, 5:09 am

I think women should read this article too. I wonder how people are happy coasting through life with no real interests.

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A woman who doesn’t really have anything going on is not worth your time.


She also sounds incredibly boooring.



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05 Dec 2013, 5:40 am

Kurgan wrote:
I've already read the article—and hopefully, most men agree with it's message.


Imagine the societal impact it would have if most men adopt this mindset.



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05 Dec 2013, 5:44 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
I've already read the article—and hopefully, most men agree with it's message.


Imagine the societal impact it would have if most men adopt this mindset.


Yop. As example it would become stupid, to complain all the time about the evil feministic woman, that try to gain good education and jobs, to share the benefit they receive from that, equally with their partners. ^^



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05 Dec 2013, 5:46 am

Schneekugel wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
I've already read the article—and hopefully, most men agree with it's message.


Imagine the societal impact it would have if most men adopt this mindset.


Yop. As example it would become stupid, to complain all the time about the evil feministic woman, that try to gain good education and jobs, to share the benefit they receive from that, equally with their partners. ^^



Yeah, and professional gold diggers would have a very hard time to survive.



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05 Dec 2013, 6:29 am

you do realise that this article is saying that men are basically just interested in sex, not the person they are having it with?



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05 Dec 2013, 6:29 am

i agree i think men do not appreciate fully womans carrers



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05 Dec 2013, 6:33 am

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you do realise that this article is saying that men are basically just interested in sex, not the person they are having it with?


No, the article is saying that men don't care about women's success/ambition in life, know the difference, and those men should start caring.



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05 Dec 2013, 6:48 am

I couldn't help but keep thinking of this while I was reading the article, even if they are "successful" and "ambitious":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-19oQJvFY4s

I think I lost half my brain cells watching it



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05 Dec 2013, 6:56 am

Good article, but it does seem to focus on professional success. Nothing wrong with that, but I wonder about friction developing when two type A and career oriented people are paired up.

The ending argument is odd-go ahead and nit pick yourself out of the dating pool? Some compromise is necessary, and a good quality. I think that's taking the message off the deep end.



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05 Dec 2013, 8:15 am

I've had a think about this a bit more. I too think this is a bit too business oriented. Although it is from a business blog, but not everyone wants to be successful in business. Some people, like me, don't have a business brain.

Should we really be "judging" people on their commercial success?



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05 Dec 2013, 8:23 am

hurtloam wrote:
I've had a think about this a bit more. I too think this is a bit too business oriented. Although it is from a business blog, but not everyone wants to be successful in business. Some people, like me, don't have a business brain.

Should we really be "judging" people on their commercial success?


Most women have been doing it with men for centuries.



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05 Dec 2013, 8:27 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
I've had a think about this a bit more. I too think this is a bit too business oriented. Although it is from a business blog, but not everyone wants to be successful in business. Some people, like me, don't have a business brain. Should we really be "judging" people on their commercial success?
Most women have been doing it with men for centuries.

Do you mean like, "Does he have a job?", "How much does he make?", and "How much is he willing to spend?" ... that kind of judgment?



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05 Dec 2013, 8:28 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
I've already read the article—and hopefully, most men agree with it's message.


Imagine the societal impact it would have if most men adopt this mindset.


I have adopted it, and I know many men who indirectly have as well; they're just not used to labelling unsuccessful women as losers the very same way they label unsuccessful men as such.



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05 Dec 2013, 8:36 am

Fnord wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
I've had a think about this a bit more. I too think this is a bit too business oriented. Although it is from a business blog, but not everyone wants to be successful in business. Some people, like me, don't have a business brain. Should we really be "judging" people on their commercial success?
Most women have been doing it with men for centuries.

Do you mean like, "Does he have a job?", "How much does he make?", and "How much is he willing to spend?" ... that kind of judgment?


Can the other person earn a living? is where I think it should stop. As long as you can both work out a way to make ends meet i.e. feed, clothe and put a roof over your head and maybe afford a few little niceties then I think that is enough. I am not a materially minded person.

What I initially liked about the article was how it encouraged women to have interests. I think having good conversation is better than being rich.

We should never justify our actions with, "but everyone else is doing it, why can't I?