Male Rape Apologists (MRAs) ask to fake rape accusations

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Jono
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08 Jan 2014, 11:49 am

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I have no idea how to both protect the rape victims and men falsely acused of rape. Obviously the legislation cannot prohibit or disencourage women to report actual rape. But how could there be a legal penalty strictly to false rape acusations?


Why should there be a special offence for the false reporting of only one particular type of crime? Filing a false police report of any crime (rape included) is already a criminal offence, it's called perjury.



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08 Jan 2014, 12:03 pm

further proof that the online form reporting can and will be abused. 2 complainants saying they are being tracked after a college person contacted them after making anonymous sexual assault complaints. AFTER complaining the college did nothing.

news report here

http://www.universityherald.com/article ... online.htm


a commentary which is more interesting


http://www.avoiceformalestudents.com/oc ... cusations/


And the usual suspects at Huffington Post College and University Herald want to help them with that. The first line of this article at the University Herald reads:

Students and faculty of a school under investigation for its response to sexual assault have accused the administration of tracking anonymous reports.

Umm…what? Shouldn’t schools track reports? Haven’t sex-assault victim advocates complained endlessly on Huffington Post College and elsewhere that schools like Occidental “don’t do enough” for rape accusers and under-document the extent of sexual assault on campus in violation of the Clery Act?

The anonymous online rape accusation form (you can see it here) was rolled out in response to a complaint that Occidental was not taking rape accusations seriously. Now that it is obvious that they are in fact taking rape accusers seriously, guess who is complaining?

None other than the rape accusers themselves, as well as their advocates.

Two students who wished to remain unnamed told the Huffington Post they were each contacted for a meeting with Occidental College’s Title IX coordinator, Lauren Carella. Both students said they filed out the anonymous sexual assault report form and did not know how Carella got in contact with them.

So a Title IX Coordinator was performing due diligence by following up with an anonymous complaint. There are good reasons why she might do this. Some victims may require different housing arrangements or other services. At the very least, it’s a good idea for schools to check up. Not only does their federal funding depend on it, but asking rape accusers questions may actually help protect other students.

Crazy idea, right? But apparently this is a shocker to these rape accusers and sex-assault victim advocates.

Danielle Dirks, a sociology professor at Occidental, and Caroline Heldman, chair of the school’s politics department, said the two students, both survivors of sexual assault, and one faculty member were called for meetings after using the form.

And we know they are “survivors” how, exactly? How do we know they are not making false accusations? Or is it just assumed that they are victims from the outset, and the male students they accuse are guilty?

Is that how equality works at Occidental?

Dirks and Heldman said their intention is not to discourage victims from reporting their crime, but to hold the school accountable. Since Occidental is one of several schools under federal investigation for their response practices to sexual assault claims, some victims, at any school, may not want to identify themselves to their school.

So let me get this straight: the rape accusers don’t want to be involved in any process that will identify themselves, even if it’s just to administrators. They don’t want to make a formal complaint or charge. What they want to do instead is accuse – and potentially falsely accuse – a man of rape in secrecy, without anyone checking up on the claim.

And let’s keep this in mind: these “victims” apparently have absolutely no needs that extend beyond accusing. No need to request a rape kit to document precious evidence that would be lost with even the slightest passing of time. No desire to see a rapist punished for a felony offense.

No desire to protect other potential victims from the trauma of rape in the future. No desire for counseling. No need to make special classroom or housing arrangements because they might feel uncomfortable being in the same classroom as their rapist, or because their dorm is right next to their rapist’s

Nope, none of that. None of that is important to these rape accusers.

But what is important? This, and only this:

Just a desire to accuse a male student, in secrecy, of one of the most damnable crimes imaginable without anyone ever checking up on the accusers. Which would inevitably result in a young man being branded a rapist (I would say “potential rapist,” but many people in academia just go ahead and assume guilt anyway – that’s their way of being “gender sensitive”), either in front of his peers or in front of an administrator.

Folks, that sounds very, very suspicious. In fact, it reeks of bullshit.

“The reason [sexual assault survivors] are using the anonymous reporting form is because they’re not convinced they want to be interfacing with the school,” Dirks said. “They worry it may be retraumatizing.”

If that was the reason, why “interface” with the school at all, including through an anonymous form? After all, couldn’t even typing out an anonymous accusation be considered “retraumatizing” in itself?

We are supposed to believe all these rape accusers are victims. I’m skeptical, and for good reason. If the complainers have their way, the anonymous form will do nothing – absolutely nothing – to empower real victims. All it will do is allow them to make accusations – including false accusations – without anyone checking up on what they say.

Given that secrecy breeds corruption, and given that these anonymous forms do virtually nothing to empower real victims of rape, I think we can all see the real use of this “anonymous” form, which is a sham in both its conceptualization and implementation.

Tyler Kingkade, head of the Rape Hysteria department at Huffington Post College, has also written an article criticizing Occidental for performing due diligence for purported rape victims. It’s amazing how all of the people who have a history of harshly criticizing schools for not following up on rape complaints all of a sudden come out to complain when they do.

Their inconsistency is entirely predictable by now, and it points at their real agenda. They aren’t out to empower rape victims specifically. They are out to empower ALL rape accusers, both the real victims and those whose lies could wreck an innocent young man’s life.

And that is why they need to go.


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08 Jan 2014, 12:29 pm

sephardic-male wrote:
further proof that the online form reporting can and will be abused. 2 complainants saying they are being tracked after a college person contacted them after making anonymous sexual assault complaints. AFTER complaining the college did nothing.

news report here

http://www.universityherald.com/article ... online.htm


a commentary which is more interesting


http://www.avoiceformalestudents.com/oc ... cusations/


Oh for the love of God. Is that the form that those MRA's on Reddit tried to fill in in order to fake rape stories? That form was meant for data gathering, not for reporting sexual assaults. Nobody can get arrested nor even get in trouble based on what was filled in, in the forms. Indeed, it's kind of hard to file a rape charge if you don't even know who the victim is. The purpose of the forms was simply to gather statistical data with which they could use as information on how invest resources to council rape victims on the campus, including male victims. The form was never a threat to anyone, not even actual perpetrators of rape. All the MRA's have done by filling in multiple fake forms was to make that data useless, thus harming actual rape victims while it has not actually done anything for people who were falsely accused of rape regardless of how low the rate of those false accusations are. What purpose does that serve?



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08 Jan 2014, 12:36 pm

Thread locked due to escalating nastiness.