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Hazelwudi
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25 Mar 2007, 10:11 am

EQ measures irritate me. Few seem to operationalize that variable properly... they tend to either test for self-esteem, or test for how psychologically fragile one assumes people to be. Both are missing the mark.

You can have a high self-esteem, but no emotional intelligence. There are many confident geeks out there who have little or no grasp of the emotions of others... and frankly couldn't care less about the emotions of others in the first place.

You can assume others are so fragile that they're an emotional breakdown looking for a place to happen, but this does not mean you have emotional intelligence. In fact, a lot of people are not that fragile, and treating them as if they are comes across as demeaning and insulting.

Even operationalizing EQ as the ability to motivate others doesn't work. For example, few would argue that a drill sergeant is not highly capable of motivating military recruits... but does this mean he is sensitive to their emotional needs? Hardly.



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25 Mar 2007, 6:22 pm

I find the test to be fairly good actually. They are indirect questions as a peep-hole into the inner person. It's much harder to ask proper, direct questions like in an IQ test (the Tickle one very nicely asks the testee to figure a2 + b2 = c2 and apply it, for example) because it's the human mind we're working with.

The reflection of how you see yourself DIRECTLY affects how you interact with others, unfortunately. That's why the questions are directed inward first and foremost - your world is within your body and mind to start with, then branches out to the outside world.

I suppose you could say it's quite a whimsical, metaphorical sort of test...but the results at the end pretty much hit the mark for a lot of people. Despite the fact that it's three blanket answers...lol.

But I suppose if someone got 80-something on an IQ test, they could argue that the test was rubbish because it didn't allow them to take advantage of their true intelligence :lol: It's all relative.

At the very least the test lets you know the areas of weakness, and what needs to be worked on :) Because I reckon everyone's able to at least refine their emotional and intellectual IQ, even if it's not to any remarkable extent. Humans are designed to evolve and adapt and mature, after all...ESPECIALLY in the mind.



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26 Mar 2007, 5:57 am

Self-esteem can affect it, certainly. However, the correlation is hardly absolute... there are too many people out there with a high self-esteem and little to no empathy for self-esteem to serve as a completely accurate predictor.



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26 Mar 2007, 7:18 am

Iunno if those out there with a high sense of self-worth and little sense of anyone else's worth can be defined as having high self-esteem, but more self-confidence and arrogance. They're far stronger in that it puts ones importance far beyond everyone else's :? I think self-esteem has a lot more empathy involved.



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26 Mar 2007, 9:46 am

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26 Mar 2007, 10:08 am

Self Esteem: "troubled youths," what we once called juvenile delinquents, have very high self-esteem. Aspies, as a group, have very low self-esteem and are often the most caring. What does that say about self-esteem being related to anything?


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26 Mar 2007, 12:44 pm

Results of the Emotional IQ Test

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Your score = 77 Your score



What does your score mean?

There's some bad news and some good news. The bad news is that your Emotional IQ is relatively low. In a practical sense, this means that you are not reaching your full potential. Low EIQ has a negative impact on all aspects of life such as relationships, your emotional health and level of motivation. As a result of your behavior, others may view you as being critical, inexpressive, inhibited, detached, cold, or even condescending. Your difficulties relating to others and dealing successfully with your own emotions may have a negative impact on your health; people with lower EIQs are prone to anxiety, depression, excessive guilt, aggressiveness, low self-concept, and stress-related problems. Chances are that you also have difficulty bouncing back from life's problems. Now for the good news: by learning and practicing new skills and more effective ways of dealing with people, you can significantly improve your EIQ. The benefits will be numerous, including stronger relationships, a more successful career and better health. Most of all, you will be an all-around happier person.


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26 Mar 2007, 3:26 pm

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I got 71
what is RDOS?


RDOS is here http://rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php

EIQ score: 82
RDOS score: 133



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26 Mar 2007, 3:32 pm

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26 Mar 2007, 4:19 pm

I got an 86.


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26 Mar 2007, 5:40 pm

Your score = 66

I'm emotionally retarded...


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26 Mar 2007, 6:03 pm

SeriousGirl wrote:
Self Esteem: "troubled youths," what we once called juvenile delinquents, have very high self-esteem. Aspies, as a group, have very low self-esteem and are often the most caring. What does that say about self-esteem being related to anything?


It seems to be a different kind of caring from what I've seen, anyway. I'm starting to notice something interesting...I know Aspies are incredibly caring, selfless folks, generous to a fault... but I don't in the least bit feel it from my Aspie friends. Worst of all is from my partner...I know he cares, but I HAVE to assume and know it because he's pretty much emotionally screwed. He's never even said 'I love you', as basic as it is to simply say. 'You mean a lot to me' is as close as it's gotten :lol:

It's a more functional sort of caring I think, looking from the outside. We NTs find it extremely difficult to detect at all. The emotions are all off as is their control from what I've seen IRL.

That test actually processes all of that. Along with self-esteem it's looking at emotional management, how you deal with emotions overall and in certain circumstances. Self-punishment is first and foremost a lack of self-esteem, but a bit of an emotional dysfunction. How you deal with less-than-positive situations...not just self-esteem but again, emotional management.

I think I managed to get the figures I did in this test because I've knocked out a lot of the management issues I had. I used to get flustered, beat myself up a lot. My current job has been a nightmare and a learning experience; nowadays when there's a major disaster (eg: an advertiser in our publication wanting a change to their ad or a court battle WHILE IT'S ON THE PRESS, and the finger being pointed at me because I didn't think to make a phone call to let them know I'd sent them an email proof of their artwork) I've learned to be cool under fire, handle the situation, dissipate the anger and frustration, and save the emo moments for later.

It all starts from the inside...just learning to process and control things without hiding emotions completely; refining them into a more useful form for the benefit of yourself and ultimately others too :)



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28 Mar 2007, 5:01 am

EIQ= 84
RDOS=147



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28 Mar 2007, 5:12 am

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In a practical sense, this means that you are not reaching your full potential. .


They have no idea what my potential is. Maybe this is as good as I can possibly manage. Standard IQ tests don't make these crappy judgements.



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28 Mar 2007, 5:23 am

i redid it and got 89, whooooo go me lol


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