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14 Feb 2014, 12:04 am

GOD ain’t dead
Posted on February 13, 2014 by katiemiafrederick

Fully illustrated post..in free verse poetic form..available at
the following 4 links ..some of which may be easier to open
depending on computer and or internet access speed....

http://katiemiafrederick.com/2014/02/13/god-aint-dead/

http://katiemiaaghogday.blogspot.com/20 ... -dead.html

http://katiemiafrederick.blogspot.com/2 ... -dead.html

http://myunderwearblog.blogspot.com/201 ... -dead.html



http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5912837.html#5912837

xxXXxxXxxXXxxXXxx wrote:

God is Dead originally appeared in Goethe’s Faust Nietzsche just borried.
How’s that for controversial?

aghogday wrote:

Yes ..i wouldn’t be surprised..if some of the dejected and despaired ancient Egyptians said the same thing ..about Isis..Osiris..and or Horus…

Sometimes the glass IS HALF FULL ..sometimes IT IS half empty…

It’s much easier to believe in an all encompassing benevolent force when the glass is more than half full..

Been there done that in both places…

That’s why i just describe ‘IT’ as a force..

Sometimes it ain’t pretty..but i guess tHere ain’t no choice but to deal with..IT on a moment to moment basis..in the NOW…!

WE all answer to nature..and our nature as human beings..that for sure is something none of can escape..on this planet ..as long as we live..

But i say why not enjoy bliss forever in the NOW..as when one is in that place…

EVERYTHING ELSE IS A MOOT POINT..:)
NO WORRIES…

BE HAPPY..IS WHAT IT CAN BE

ALL ABOUT..:)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Sxv-sUYtM[/youtube]

HAPPINESS CAN BE THE ALL

ENCOMPASSING TRUTH…

OR DESPAIR CAN BE
THE ALL

ENCOMPASSING TRUTH…

I CHOOSE THE FORMER..
AND STAY THERE IN
THE
NOW..:) :) :)! !!


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14 Feb 2014, 12:49 am

Yes he is I shot him in the head with an etherial bullet of logic and summoned a magical genie to wish his chances of coming back away! His etherial corpse faded away with fairy dust and such!


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14 Feb 2014, 1:02 am

Creation is alive and kicking.



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14 Feb 2014, 2:22 am

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Yes he is I shot him in the head with an etherial bullet of logic and summoned a magical genie to wish his chances of coming back away! His etherial corpse faded away with fairy dust and such!


Well..if you believe it ..i guess it is so for ya...

But not for me....


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14 Feb 2014, 2:25 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Creation is alive and kicking.


YES It IS..the IS travels with US ITIS
ALLITIS...:)

And when it doesn't travel with us the way we want..

We could get mad ..i guess..but as IT IS
part of our Journey 2...
We might as well make the best of

IT

i think..i feel
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14 Feb 2014, 3:20 am

aghogday wrote:
GOD ain't dead


If his feet weren't nailed to his perch he'd fall off. Or to put it another way...

A customer enters a pet shop.

Customer: 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint.

(The owner does not respond.)

C: 'Ello, Miss?

Owner: What do you mean "miss"?

C: I'm sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint!

O: We're closin' for lunch.

C: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this God what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.

O: Oh yes, the, uh, the Hebrew God...What's,uh...What's wrong with him?

C: I'll tell you what's wrong with him, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with him!

O: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.

C: Look, matey, I know a dead god when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.

O: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable god, the Hebrew god, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!

C: The plumage don't enter into it. He's stone dead.

O: Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting!

C: All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up!

(shouting at the cage)

'Ello, Mister God! I've got a lovely fresh cuttle fish for you if you show...(owner hits the cage)

O: There, he moved!

C: No, he didn't, that was you hitting the cage!

O: I never!!

C: Yes, you did!

O: I never, never did anything...

C: (yelling and hitting the cage repeatedly) 'ELLO GOD!! !! !

Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock alarm call!

(Takes god out of the cage and thumps his head on the counter. Throws him up in the air and watches him plummet to the floor.)

C: Now that's what I call a dead god.

O: No, no.....No, 'e's stunned!

C: STUNNED?!?

O: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Hebrew gods stun easily, major.

C: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That god is definitely deceased, and when I purchased him not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that his total lack of movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk.

O: Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords.

C: PININ' for the FJORDS?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that?, look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home?

O: The Hebrew God prefers kippin' on his back! Remarkable god, id'nit, squire? Lovely plumage!

C: Look, I took the liberty of examining that god when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that he had been sitting on his perch in the first place was that he'd been NAILED there.

(pause)

O: Well, o'course he was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that god down, he would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with his beak, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee!

C: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this god wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through him! 'E's bleedin' demised!

O: No no! 'E's pining!

C: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This god is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker!

'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies!
'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig!
'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!

THIS IS AN EX-GOD!!

(pause)

O: Well, I'd better replace him, then.

(he takes a quick peek behind the counter)

O: Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of gods.

C: I see. I see, I get the picture.

O: I got a slug.

(pause)

C: (sweet as sugar) Pray, does it talk?

O: Nnnnot really.

C: WELL IT'S HARDLY A BLOODY REPLACEMENT, IS IT?! !???! !?

O: Look, if you go to my brother's pet shop in Bolton, he'll replace the god for you.

C: Bolton, eh? Very well.

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14 Feb 2014, 3:43 am

Aghogday, it's somewhat ironic that Nietzsche's own views on establishing a greater you through acts of will, a life affirming carpe diem attitude, dancing to some inner (and real) music is all reflected in your own comments. Other than your focus on a vague god and social outlets via the church the underlying sentiment doesn't sound very different to me.

"We should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once" --Nietzsche

The statement "god is dead" is sort of begging the question anyway. It's a bit like the silly Pascal's Wager, which essentially says, "assuming the Christian god is the only plausible explanation, it makes sense to believe in him. " Well thanks Sherlock. Can you repeat that first part again mate? These are men who are still reeling from a world where Christian thought permeated everything and they frame their thoughts accordingly.



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14 Feb 2014, 4:06 am

If god is dead then YAY! We can celebrate being ourselves without being judged!


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14 Feb 2014, 4:29 am

I see we have plenty of Nietszcheans here! My question is, what do you propose we do about nihilism? Dancing? Art? Schopenhauer was along similar lines. These two knew each other well.



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14 Feb 2014, 5:11 am

Well, I once read one of his books. Nietzsche is like Camus. Both are easier for non philosophers to interact with . They are writers and moralists who say, "wow, we've got a problem. Here's what I think we should do". Nietzsche says to make your own values. Camus says don't be a jerk.

In my opinion the cure for nihilism is to stay busy. If you're that worried about it it's a sign that you've got too much time on your hands.



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14 Feb 2014, 5:14 am

simon_says wrote:
Well, I once read one of his books. Nietzsche is like Camus. Both are easier for non philosophers to interact with . They are writers and moralists who say, "wow, we've got a problem. Here's what I think we should do". Nietzsche says to make your own values. Camus says don't be a jerk.

In my opinion the cure for nihilism is to stay busy. If you're that worried about it it's a sign that you've got too much time on your hands.

Making your own values can be very tricky. It seems like we have a lot of that now and the chaos that follows. People are misguided, lost and confused. Reevaluation of Values...sounds like a good idea unless your replacement values are illegal or something like that or plain dysfunctional.
Really what Nietzsche envisioned was the end of Christian values and the rise of ubermensch of which the rest of humanity are a mere audience before their stage. Sounds like he had Wagner in mind when he thought of that. He was making cow eyes at him and wrote this to impress.



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14 Feb 2014, 5:42 am

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Making your own values can be very tricky. It seems like we have a lot of that now and the chaos that follows. People are misguided, lost and confused. Reevaluation of Values...sounds like a good idea unless your replacement values are illegal or something like that or plain dysfunctional.


That's always been true. There are kind people and unkind people and a bunch of words never seem to change that.

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Really what Nietzsche envisioned was the end of Christian values and the rise of ubermensch of which the rest of humanity are a mere audience before their stage. Sounds like he had Wagner in mind when he thought of that. He was making cow eyes at him and wrote this to impress.


Sure. But getting there was a process and he throws out some great lines along the way.



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14 Feb 2014, 8:51 am

Shouldn't someone first be proven to be alive before he or she can be declared dead?

I mean, where's the body? Where is the writ of Habeus Corpus? Where are the certificates of birth and death?

EVIDENCE, Please?



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14 Feb 2014, 10:03 am

TallyMan wrote:
aghogday wrote:
GOD ain't dead


If his feet weren't nailed to his perch he'd fall off. Or to put it another way...

A customer enters a pet shop.

Customer: 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint.

(The owner does not respond.)

C: 'Ello, Miss?

Owner: What do you mean "miss"?

C: I'm sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint!

O: We're closin' for lunch.

C: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this God what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.

O: Oh yes, the, uh, the Hebrew God...What's,uh...What's wrong with him?

C: I'll tell you what's wrong with him, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with him!

O: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.

C: Look, matey, I know a dead god when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.

O: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable god, the Hebrew god, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!

C: The plumage don't enter into it. He's stone dead.

O: Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting!

C: All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up!

(shouting at the cage)

'Ello, Mister God! I've got a lovely fresh cuttle fish for you if you show...(owner hits the cage)

O: There, he moved!

C: No, he didn't, that was you hitting the cage!

O: I never!!

C: Yes, you did!

O: I never, never did anything...

C: (yelling and hitting the cage repeatedly) 'ELLO GOD!! !! !

Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock alarm call!

(Takes god out of the cage and thumps his head on the counter. Throws him up in the air and watches him plummet to the floor.)

C: Now that's what I call a dead god.

O: No, no.....No, 'e's stunned!

C: STUNNED?!?

O: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Hebrew gods stun easily, major.

C: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That god is definitely deceased, and when I purchased him not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that his total lack of movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk.

O: Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords.

C: PININ' for the FJORDS?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that?, look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home?

O: The Hebrew God prefers kippin' on his back! Remarkable god, id'nit, squire? Lovely plumage!

C: Look, I took the liberty of examining that god when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that he had been sitting on his perch in the first place was that he'd been NAILED there.

(pause)

O: Well, o'course he was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that god down, he would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with his beak, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee!

C: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this god wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through him! 'E's bleedin' demised!

O: No no! 'E's pining!

C: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This god is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker!

'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies!
'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig!
'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!

THIS IS AN EX-GOD!!

(pause)

O: Well, I'd better replace him, then.

(he takes a quick peek behind the counter)

O: Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of gods.

C: I see. I see, I get the picture.

O: I got a slug.

(pause)

C: (sweet as sugar) Pray, does it talk?

O: Nnnnot really.

C: WELL IT'S HARDLY A BLOODY REPLACEMENT, IS IT?! !???! !?

O: Look, if you go to my brother's pet shop in Bolton, he'll replace the god for you.

C: Bolton, eh? Very well.

The customer leaves.


As far as i can see the Patriarchal so called Hebrew GOD Sucks...

GOD is a 'little' bit of everything..not just a dick...:)

But yes there is mental masturbation..and if the 'two' could
connect ...i guess there would be less violence
and stife...

Kinda like what happened WHEN humankind finally figured out to have full accessible
peep shows...all the time....

More than anything else except for food..

There's sex..a weak human in the Winter frost ..has to do it a lot..
Otherwise 'it' might freeze off first...

in the ice...
ouch..:)

So maybe overall GOD is a Penis
AND a VAGINA..
the most ..in
TRUE EFFECT..
AND creation
activity..
of all kinds...

Popular CULTURE thinks so ...
anyway..
in
TRUEST EFFECT..
IT'S kinda obvious if ya
look around in a truly
free country..

SEX IS EVERYWHERE..

A FREE HUMAN.. MOSTLY SPEAKING
IS GONNA FLAUNT
THAT PART
OF
GOD.

(valentine's day
is a day for GOD
and SEX)

AND OVERALL HUMAN
SENSUALITY

(JUST CELEBRATING IT
a little bit today in more ways than
one here):)

BUT I WON'T LINK
THAT
HERE..'MR. MODERATOR'..:);)


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14 Feb 2014, 10:17 am

simon_says wrote:
Aghogday, it's somewhat ironic that Nietzsche's own views on establishing a greater you through acts of will, a life affirming carpe diem attitude, dancing to some inner (and real) music is all reflected in your own comments. Other than your focus on a vague god and social outlets via the church the underlying sentiment doesn't sound very different to me.

"We should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once" --Nietzsche

The statement "god is dead" is sort of begging the question anyway. It's a bit like the silly Pascal's Wager, which essentially says, "assuming the Christian god is the only plausible explanation, it makes sense to believe in him. " Well thanks Sherlock. Can you repeat that first part again mate? These are men who are still reeling from a world where Christian thought permeated everything and they frame their thoughts accordingly.


I LIKE the philosopher Nietzche very much..

But see..i am a truly free thinker..

i do not just limit my thought to how i believe..i try to understand WHY OTHER FOLKS BELIEVE the way they do too....

And pursue it IN both intellectual and poetic ways...

AS discussed in the other thread..this is seriously also part of how i have eliminated the most difficult aspects of the reciprocal social
communicaTION dEFICITS of autism..

PUTTING MYSELF IN THE SHOES OF
OTHERS...

a LIFELONG PRACTICE...
THAT i continue now in exploring the
OVERALL POWER OF
BELIEF...

BUT I GO ONE STEP FURTHER THAN CARPE DIEM...

i seize the NOW

AND in my method of writing...

tHere is a sacred aspect of it..where SACRED ONLY MEANS...
FULL FOCUS AND EXPRESSION OF THE NOW...

each Letter and Number or any other symbol i use...

I
S EVIDENCE OF THAT...

AS I NEITHER MOVE ON THE SIDEWALKS OF LIFE..IN SILLY LITTLE LINES STRAIGHT AHEAD...

nor do i limit my language ..in written expression...

to the rules
of
sidewalks

either....

I AM
FREE..

AND WHAT I CONSIDER AS GOD
IS WILD
AND
FREE
TOO..
SIMPLY A FORCE AND ENERGY..
THAT IS THE GLUE
OF
LIFE...
:)

GOOD AND EVIL..BAD AND GOOD..

DO NOT EXIST IN MY LIFE...

THERE IS ONLY DARK AND LIGHT
AND POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE

ACTION AND CONSEQUENCE...

AND THE RESULTING

FLAVORED

ENERGY..

DARK OR LIGHT...

BUT

BOTH WORK TOGETHER

TO CREATE

THE GREATEST

LIGHT

WHAT I DESCRIBE

AS

SACRED LOVE..

WHICH IS SIMPLY ALTRUISTIC UNCONDITIONAL LOVE
FOR ALL THINGS..

EXISTING..LIFE..AND
ALL MATERIAL AND NON MATERIAL
EXISTENCE.....

but on all my blogs..in the right hand column

my manifesto..is all about...

a general philosophy...

close to

classical pantheism...

i do NOT give
gOD a Personality....
or anthropomorphic..
being....

The ALLITIS

IS

ENERGY AND FORCE ENOUGH
FOR
ME...:)
TO HAVE THE BESTEST LIFE

I
CAN PERSONALLY

imagine........


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14 Feb 2014, 10:22 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
If god is dead then YAY! We can celebrate being ourselves without being judged!


WELL PERSONALLY i do not think the ALLITIS

needs any name...

if you assign the name of GOD to the DEVIL that is oppression...

that is completely KOOL WITH ME...

HUMANS CERTAINLY DESERVE AS MUCH FREEDOM..

OR MORE..
THAN A DOMESTICATED DOG..

IN A BACK YARD...

BUT REASON CAN BE A DOG OF DOMESTICATION TOO...

I CHOOSE TO BE

A WOLF

INSTEAD...

in metaphorical affect..
and EFFECT....

USING A FULL MIND..
OF EMOTION..EMPATHIC WAYS
OF COMMUNICATION...
AND
LOGIC...REASON..
FOR FULL
COMMON SENSE....

AND A FULLY
FUNCTIONING
BRAIN .. the entire rest of the BODY..
AND MORE THAN
silly little humans can see..
with little
eyeballs....


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