Women and men irritate the crap out of eachother!

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I don't know about macho as such, it just struck me as the male equivalent of your run down of 'women's interests'. Each to their own, of course, which I guess is the point to take from this, but much of what you describe I would find similarly tedious. Possibly religious/social criticism, but that depends if you mean it in the sense of 'boo! That's rubbish!' criticism, or more like art criticism, engaging the subjects with sincere interest and consideration. I'm quite sure you (and many others) would find what I take to be fascinating, boring if not plain stupid.






Yep. The people who just can't seem to feel at home in the world. The messed up, smart, insightful/thoughtful queer (meant in many senses) sort. I can get on with them.

If you find all these things tedious then you're not my type, you're too boring to me. Hell, what topics you talk about?

By "religious/social criticism," I mean topics like:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt257044.html

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt257549.html

Not the typical religion/ancient history conversations.


I personally find guys far less homogeneous when it comes to interests and hobbies, hell, I found out they are even less homogeneous when it comes to "hot women" - some find hot what I find too overweight, other find ugly what I find attractive, but ....most women, like similar archetype of guys and more homogeneous in interests.

And not all smarter women are better persons btw, the smartest and most non-typical woman I knew turned out to be the most gold-digger ass.

Men don't irritate me at all.

Annoying twats irritate me, regardless of gender .

Nailed it.

Intelligence is no indication of niceness or goodness. None at all.

Aspies aren't completely oblivious. Having friends all of the opposite gender is more of an indication of what type of person you are as opposed to whether you have aspergers or not.

I gave a 40% women/5% men bearability figure earlier in this thread. In terms of this, I am imagining being stuck somewhere with someone who doesn't pick up (or care to pick up) on my attempts at being unapproachable, and where I find myself stuck in a kind of panicked retreat, unable to extricate myself. So, I have, say, an hour's bus journey to look forward to with someone who insists on trying to make conversation with me. In those circumstances, the 40/5 figures apply. Very, very, very unlikely I'd make some great new friend, but those numbers reperesent the gender-specific chance it won't be a living hell for the duration. If they can talk intelligently about themselves (or even better, topics of mutual interest. Even better yet, the interplay between self and topic) - great. I might be able to get into that. Otherwise I try and approach it as a more interactive form of people watching and make the best of it. This is when I'm in the 40/5 zone(s). Outside of that, it's enough to put me in a bad way for the day.

(I understand there is a phenomenom called 'resting b***h face' - a sort of permanent scowl that doesn't match the person's warmth and friendliness. I seem to suffer from 'resting friendly-and-approachable face', completely at odds with my preference for being left alone, and even my attempts to convey such - a body language that is closed and hunched, earphones in even if not actually being used, reading)

It's a pretty small circle, the people I know and care about, who I find interesting and whose perspectives I value, definitely weighted to the female, and communicating mostly through e-mail (most live at some distance). So, I'm interested in their day-to-day lives, how they're getting on, what they're thinking. I can best explain it that, though I may not share a particular taste or interest in something, I can very much appreciate and understand why they have that taste/interest.

In terms of topics - music, books, films, art, various creative pursuits, politics in both Westminster/party and political philosophy/theory sense, metaphysics, mind, sexuality, architecture, topography, psychology mingling with psychoanalysis, grey areas, lived experience, the sublime, the uncanny, the weird, monsters, subjectivities, myths, metaphors, meaning, ideas and concepts and attributes/qualities thereof and how they relate, within and between. Deathly dull - idiotic, even - to many, I'm sure. That's fine.

I'd judge that men-at-large are a little more homogenous than women-at-large. But there's all sorts of local/experiential differences to account for this disagreement.

^ a lot of topics you mentioned are in science category and others (...etc), at least hal of them I am into them.

I am surprised that you find more women than men who are interested in those.

That's why I said "smarter, more independent types." First of all, no one is claiming that sheer intelligence is the "one that rules them all." Second, I think the gold-digger types are "smart like a fox" - i.e., they have sufficient brainpower combined with the right kind of well-honed social skills to be able to successfully manipulate people (the female version of a PUA, in my estimation). In other words, they use their ability to manipulate people in order to appear smarter than they actually are. I've encountered enough of these types (both male and female) to now be able to recognize them pretty quickly. These types are not happy unless they're getting someone else to jump through their hoops.

Someone who is genuinely intelligent and good-hearted but may lack some of the social skills is the kind of person I enjoy being around for the long term. Not surprisingly, that does generally describe a lot of people with AS.

I'm not entirely sure what there comes under a scientific category. I find that, astronomy aside (a fleeting, dabbling interest since childhood), science and 'scientific' explanation doesn't really move me. It is, of course, tremendously useful, but it doesn't spark my interest.

The people I know and talk to aren't really statistically significant.

I married into a smart, messed up family which comprises two sisters and their mother, my father-in-law some seven years dead (I estranged myself from my biological family as soon as I could) and have, over my decade plus online, picked up some longtime e-friends with whom I feel very at ease. Also, my sister-in-law has some odd knack for finding/drawing interesting people into her social circle, and I'll occasionally enjoy a conversation or two with such.

The woman wasn't that socially skilled, she had an extreme nerdy past, she was socially inept indoor person and bookworm but she hated her old self too much to the extent she has transformed into something else.

I guess, just there are books out there to help shy, nerdy men transform themselves into PUAs, there are books that help shy, nerdy women transform themselves into gold-diggers.

Sometimes women view us men as that pet pitbull in their car tearing up their back seat but then comes up and licks the owner in the face!

Geist, Eureka, Starvingartist....

You should take a look at this: http://www.wikihow.com/Stop-Hating-Other-Women

You need it more than WP guys .

Nope, you guys appear to be the haters. I just have nothing in common with most women....and no desire to get in their pants.

Silly phone, posting this three times....

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