Welcome to UKIPland- a nightmare vision of future britain
thomas81
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David Coburn MEP - Glasgow-born and openly gay - would love to hear you say that. He is living proof that you spout utter horse manure.
...which i suppose makes UKIP not homophobic in the same vein that the BNP aren't racist or anti semitic because they have Sikh and Jewish supporters. Can you say Turkeys voting for Christmas?
Well, now that the genie is ever more out of the bottle regarding your party's true colours we can say with no lack of confidence he will be, unlike the amount of dicey gaffes your party has made, a unique occurance.
Your councillors can only say so many racist and homophobic things before it becomes labelled a racist and homophobic party.
I have to marvel at the audacity of you lecturing me on racism!
The BNP is an avowedly racist party. They ally with open neo-Nazis. Griffin is a Holocaust denier.
UKIP is a party that is typically British, and classically liberal, in character. It is full of decent, trustworthy people that want the very best for their country. We have all kinds of people in it. The diversity of experiences is quite something.
If I was a xenophobic person, UKIP wouldn't be for me. There are foreigners everywhere in it! Even in my branch! It is quite cosmopolitan within the party. It reflects Britain in its diversity and its people. You have people sitting next to each other smiling who would have despised each other a few short years before.. Yes, there could perhaps be more voices from ethnic minorities, but I get the impression that many of them would get stick for what they believe in from the usual bigoted, unwashed, violent thugs. Love to hear a Polish (hello KNP!) or Romanian anti-EU perspective.
Your councillors can only say so many racist and homophobic things before it becomes labelled a racist and homophobic party.
We are embarrassed by these idiots. They let us down. We remove them.
I bet the Greens don't remove their bigots.
Like with Britain and the EU, better to be on the inside pissing out...
Think how bad the permanent Tory government would manage to screw you over.
I think the union is between the wrong nations. If I had my way, Cardiff, Edinburgh, Douglas, Belfast and Dublin would club together
Leaving the South County and the Raven King's lands to the mercy of London and its allies?
thomas81
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Oh, here is the latest from David Coburn MEP. He is no friend of LGBT advocacy-
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/05/28/ga ... omophobia/
thomas81
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Like with Britain and the EU, better to be on the inside pissing out...
Think how bad the permanent Tory government would manage to screw you over.
I think the union is between the wrong nations. If I had my way, Cardiff, Edinburgh, Douglas, Belfast and Dublin would club together
Leaving the South County and the Raven King's lands to the mercy of London and its allies?
Ok, the Cornish can join too.
thomas81
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I think UKIP have made it crystal clear they aren't friends of the LGBT community.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/05/27/uk ... trination/
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/05/22/ei ... have-said/
This is all hypothetical.
Nigel Farage is not going to become PM - and he knows it.
UKIP is not going to win the next general election. They might beat the Lib-Dems in terms of votes but they will be lucky to elect even one solitary MP.
The public used the Euro elections as a referendum on immigration and the EU. National policies of UKIP were immaterial for this election.
UKIP might have entered the mainstream but it has too many shortcomings to win enough public support to topple the Labour Conservative establishment in a general election.
Economic policy lets UKIP down badly (it was born in the LSE) and the public doesn't trust them on the NHS. If UKIP economic policies were geared towards financially average people then they could be on for a winner. But will they ever be?
UKIP will only remain popular for as long as the media gives it plenty of positive coverage. If the media decides to ignore UKIP or give it bad press then it's popularity will fall like that of the BNP.
UKIP is a one man band. Not many people can name a senior member of UKIP apart from Nigel Farage.
Michael Gove
George Osborne
Theresa May
Iain Duncan-Smith
William Hague
Chris Grayling
I'm sure that 9 out of 10 people could come up with at least any two from this list.
I was including the Prime Minister in order to make a joke. But perhaps most people could name Michael Gove.
For a political party without a single MP to take top spot in the Euro elections is hard to say is anything less than brilliant.
Historians will look back and say that Nick Clegg destroyed the Lib-Dems but I doubt that many UKIP votes came from former Lib-Dem supporters. A much higher proportion came from people who don't normally vote. Lib-Dem voters cast their votes for Labour, Green, or stayed at home.
There is much truth to this but it is highly likely that UKIP will come third place in about 3/4 of all English constituencies beating the Lib-Dems next general election.
A coalition with the Lib-Dems past 2015 is out of the question because they will be slaughtered and reduced to around 5 MPs at the most. The DUP will probably be the third largest party in Westminster.
thomas81
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As this blog confirms, UKIP are about introducing a 'Mc Health service' which is the bane of poor and sick people in the United States. Where your entitlement to treatment is not based on need but on ability to pay.
Next time UKIP or someone who supports them tells you they are friends of the working class, wake up and smell the BS.
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