Might is Right or The Survival of the Fittest

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by Ragnar Redbeard.

Anyone else here read it?

I stumbled upon it ~4 or so years ago and thought it sounded interesting. Then a friend used the phrase "Might is Right," and it reminded me of the book. I recently picked up a copy and just finished reading it last night.

Wow. This is definitely the most badass book I've ever read. Parts of it were, apparently, plagiarized by Anton LaVey when he wrote the Satanic Bible in 1968. Don't know if it's still banned in any countries, but apparently it was after it came out in 1896.

It's very anti religion, anti government, anti being controlled in any way - but not quite the chaos of complete anarchy. It's pro war, pro entrepreneur, pro capitalism, pro health & fitness etc. Basically the philosophy is that Force rules everything and thus constant war is a natural state and is required for the best men of the species to thrive. It touches on hundreds of examples throughout history and is quite the read.. also a bit of a difficult read given the language used in 1896 & the hundreds of footnotes to read in order to get all the historical references. Obviously the author was a very well read person. It touches on battle, work, love, family, wealth etc and relates everything to being won by force - and has some particularly interesting takes on things that I found quite valuable.

..it's also quite pro Aryan supremacy, but I didn't read it for that. I read it because I need to be more assertive/aggressive in life in general and figured it'd be a pretty good influence to read and sort of help reprogram my thoughts/actions by. Not that I want to become an as*hole, but I certainly don't want to be anywhere near as passive as I have been in the past.

Here's the cover of the version I read that has all the footnotes to explain who/what the author is talking about:



Anyone else here read it?

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No for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.

Doesn't sound like the sort of book I'd be into....and I don't see constant war as a good thing really, just causes destruction to the earth and kills lots of people. But to each their own I suppose.

Sorry, but it sounds like BS. I wouldn't trust anything written in the 1800's.

Assertiveness is fine, but I don't see any reason why we have to go around killing people or not care about the poor, etc.

Unfortunately, force gets its way most of the time. But this is the wrong direction for our species. We need more compassionate people in this world, more people who care about social harmony, and protecting the planet. Unfortunately, intellectual, non-assertive people are often full of doubts, and are held by back by them. Take the assertiveness from the book but forget the rest if you ask me.

He has a point, but it's the wrong direction in my opinion. Why go backwards?

I found it here ... https://archive.org/stream/MightIsRight ... 3/mode/2up

Skimming through, it appears like the promotion of Sociopathy ..

The book states:
-"man's first duty in the world is to himself"
-"dispense with your love for others ....."
-"morals are artificial ...."

Thus, likely coming to his conclusion that exploiting superiority over another - might - is right.


The book says that one of the original authors is unknown .. could it be ....

I just finished reading this book. It was awesome. It is refreshing. We have all become moral and turned away from the way of nature, but reading about it is great. It offers many benefits. The honesty in the book is wonderful. We should recognize our darker side that society makes us give up. I recognize myself as the authority and no one else. I can, for my own benefit, choose to follow the will of the majority but my thoughts are my own and not polluted with the idiocy of the majority. I agree with Redbeard that social Darwinism would produce a superior species. I am soft hearted though so I would oppose this. I could never hurt my neighbour for his stuff, even if there were no consequences. I hope that we can select the best people artificially. Eg. people with serious ailments (like AS) should choose to not procreate, or be sterilized, but not killed. Genetic engineering would also be great. Although I am soft hearted towards people that have not done me wrong, I would not tolerate offense. I have little love for pacifists. As a result of this book I have an even deeper hatred for Christianity.

Hate for hate and ruth for ruth
Eye for eye and tooth for tooth
Scorn for scorn and smile for smile
Love for love and guile for guile
War for war and woe for woe
Blood for blood and blow for blow

PS if you enjoyed this you might also enjoy the Marquis de Sade. Philosophy in the Boudoir is an excellent way to start with him. It is one of his tamest works (though far from tame), but reveals his philosophy in a wonderful way. De Sade?s main issue is pleasure. His philosophy is that there are no crimes, and morality is BS, we should do anything that gives us pleasure, including murder, rape, and so on. Obviously I don?t agree with it, but it is a lot of fun to read that viewpoint. One of the best books I ever read. He crosses all moral boundaries in this book, so be prepared if you choose to read it. I also started 120 days of Sodom by the same author. It is supposed to be his masterpiece, but the cruelty is unimaginable so I had to stop reading. I think I will start again at some point.

Other similar books are:
The Satanic bible (though far more moral)
The Prince by Machiavelli
Nietzsche

I also got a book called The Decadent Handbook, which was enjoyable for a while, but after reading De Sade it is kind of boring now. Anyway if you come across any other ?dark? books please let me know.

Oh and I love this poem:

The Philosophy of Power and the Logic of Today
Might was Right when Caesar bled upon the stones of Rome,
Might was Right when Joshua led his hordes over Jordan's foam,
And Might was Right when German troops poured down through Paris gay,
It's the Gospel of the Ancient World and the Logic of Today.

Behind all Kings and Presidents - all government and law,
Are army-corps and canoneers to hold the world in awe.
And sword-strong races own the earth and ride the Conqueror's Car --
And liberty has never been won except by deeds of war.

What are the lords of horded gold - the silent Semite rings?
What are the plunder-patriots- high pontiffs, priests and kings?
What are they but bold master-minds, best fitted for the fray
Who comprehend and vanquish by - the Logic of Today.

Cain's knotted club is scepter still - the "Right of Man" is fraud.
Christ's Ethics are for creeping things - true manhood smiles at "God".
For Might is Right when empires sink in storms of steel and flame;
And it is RIGHT when weakling breeds are hunted down like game.

Then what's the use of dreaming dreams, that each shall "get his own"
By forceless votes of meek-eyed thralls, who blindly sweat and moan?
No! A curse is on their cankered brains -- their very bones decay:
Go: Trace your fate in the Iron Game, it's the Logic of Today.

The strong must ever rule the weak, is grim Primordial Law.
On earth's broad racial threshing floor, the meek are beaten straw.
Then ride to power o'er foemen's neck - let NOTHING bar your way:
If you are FIT you'll Rule and Reign, is the Logic of Today.

You must prove you're Right by deeds of Might of splendor and renown.
If need-be march through flames of hell, to dash opponents down.
If need be, die on scaffold high in the morning's misty gray.
For "Liberty or Death" is still the Logic of Today.

Might was Right when Gideon led the "chosen" tribes of old.
And it was right when Titus burnt their temple roofed with gold:
And Might was Right from Bunkers Hill, to far Manilla Bay,
By land and flood it's wrote in blood - the Gospel of Today.

"Put not your trust in princes" is a saying old and true
"Put not your hope in governments" translateth it anew.
All "Books of Law" and "Golden Rules" are fashioned to betray:
"The Survival of the Strongest" is the Gospel of Today.

Might was Right when Carthage flames lit up the Punic foam;
And when the naked steel of Gaul weighed down the spoil of Rome;
And Might was Right when Richmond fell - and at Thermopylae -
It's the logic of the Ancient World and the Gospel of Today.

Where pendant suns in millions swing around this whirling earth,
It's Might, It's Force that holds the brakes, and steers through life and death:
Force governs all organic life, inspires all Right and Wrong.
It's Nature's plan to weed out man and TEST who are the strong.

A society based on this philosophy has already been put into place, and the consequences well-noted.

Something that came to mind is that the law often favors the rich. In many places the poor are left to starve but it is against the law for them to take by force what they need to survive. In nature if you lack something and another has is you take it from him. That is not allowed by the law. So what the law does in these cases is keep those who are down down and takes away their only method of rising up. Whereas the exploiters who got rich have an abundance of everything without anyone being able to challenge them. So the law is the henchman of the rich. The way of nature is cruel. In these places, we have not improved on nature for the poor in fact we have damned them even more, what we have done is to protect the rich exploiters. In such a case I would say the person who does not have anything is justified in breaking the law and destroying anyone in his path including law enforcement.

Laveyan satanism is about as pro establishment as protestantism.

Absolutely, but the government should stop pretending it is moral! No more pretense of morality and holier than thou attitude, might is right. Admit it and may the best side win. In these cases the law is simply the henchman of the rich and certainly not moral. I hate pretense.

Morals? Nothing but a joke.

Here we are killing people in numbers higher than ever before, our tax money spent on sophisticated weapons to tear apart father, mother and child. How proud we are of our morals.

There is enough in the world but we kill each other like bloodthirsty animals.........to make old men richer.

Of all animals the race that calls itself human is by far the most disgusting, especially since we have the ability and power to change.