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10 Jun 2014, 3:35 pm

He wrote many books in the nineteenth century, mostly comedies, many of them are readings school in Poland. However, not many know that he also created a lot of bawdy comedy and poems that often bordered on pornography, which term is often caused scandals in the end it was the nineteenth century, but the Count Fredro did not care about the rigid conventions of his era.

If anyone knows the Polish language can listen to this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh9NDC4x0Hk[/youtube]
is literary porn parody, Our Polish Epic "Pan Tadeusz" by A Mickiewicz.

And this.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSTyhshk-6c[/youtube]

This, in turn, is literary parody porn, of traditional Polish legend about the "Stupid Jaśu (Johny) and his two brothers. In this legend, three brothers trying to marry the princess (One brother is insanely strong, the other is very clever and a third the youngest the eponymous "Glupi Jasiu - Stupid Johnny) Both brothers are losing, but Jasiu is successful thanks to his latent traits ( benevolence, empathy, and kindness))

In this legend Johnny was neither super strong, nor particularly intelligent, but he had a very good heart, for that's what he won the love of a princess and a half kingdoms. But lascivious Count Fredro remade this little story. In his version of the princess is eternally unsatisfied sexually whore, which by the fact that having sex with every man in the kingdom, which takes professional hooker job, for this they sent petitions to the king to do something about it :D

The king announced that whoever meets uncontrollable sexual needs princess, his daughter, will be her husband. The two elder brothers can not do this get a heart attack and are transported to the castle hospital , only a Głupi Jasio (Stupdi Johny) the youngest are successful, thanks to the "magic candom" which won in the meantime.

I like porn parodies Count Fredro, today we think of people living in the nineteenth century for stiffs and very prudish, but it was not so in the case of Aleksander Fredro :-)



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10 Jun 2014, 5:00 pm

Never heard of him, but I have read William Burrough's Naked Lunch, which is pretty obscene to the point that they tried to ban it in a progressive city like Boston years ago.


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10 Jun 2014, 6:22 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Never heard of him, but I have read William Burrough's Naked Lunch, which is pretty obscene to the point that they tried to ban it in a progressive city like Boston years ago.


Strange, I heard that in the U.S. government can not prohibit the publication of books, even if it is disgusting, because of the American famous the 1st Amendment :D



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10 Jun 2014, 7:56 pm

I'm pretty sure it was 1960 that the U.S. Supreme Court extended First Amendment protection to quote-unquote "dirty books." And the Court sometimes works by letting an appellate court decision stand. The book was either Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H.Lawrence or Tropic of Cancer / Tropic of Capricorn by Henry Miller.



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10 Jun 2014, 9:05 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
Strange, I heard that in the U.S. government can not prohibit the publication of books, even if it is disgusting, because of the American famous the 1st Amendment :D


That's what we call the forces of reaction. But thanks to the first amendment, the courts said Burroughs' book couldn't be suppressed.


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11 Jun 2014, 12:33 am

I wonder, as we have in Europe we are talking about the American constitution, generally hear about "First Amendment" (the about censorship), or "the Second Amendment (which guarantees every adult citizen access to weapons)
I wonder which of these constitutional guarantees Americans value more?



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11 Jun 2014, 1:20 am

I'll take the 1st any day of the week. What are you going to do with the 2nd, get killed taking arms up against the US armed forces, when you can get your point across in a peaceful manner?


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11 Jun 2014, 1:28 am

Eh, shouldn't this be in the adult section?



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11 Jun 2014, 3:29 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
I'll take the 1st any day of the week. What are you going to do with the 2nd, get killed taking arms up against the US armed forces, when you can get your point across in a peaceful manner?


I like this whole "2nd Amendment" pity me that in Poland there is no such law, though, and so my mom would not let me keep firearms in the house. My point here is that in order to have the right to own a gun you have to get a permit for the weapon, which is very difficult to achieve, you have to go thorough compelte medical clinical tests, psychological tests and psychiatric evaluation i doubt that anyone with Asperger's got a gun permit in Poland, though I could be wrong, because I never applied for such a license :)

Although I wish I could shoot at the shooting from time to time've heard that it can relax.

I could do the board to shoot, with images of our Polish politicians :D

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Eh, shouldn't this be in the adult section?


Why?



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11 Jun 2014, 6:24 am

Um, because it's about "obscene literature"? There may be some stuff linked here that could potentially be considered pornographic and therefore illegal to disseminate to minors.



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11 Jun 2014, 7:33 am

I do not know why minors do not have to read it. From somewhere in the end have to learn the truth about life, and not to believe that young children are brought by the stork the postman, as it was once explained in Poland, or birds and bees as is explained in English speaking world.

Besides Count Fredro was a representative of the Victorian generation, and as we all know people in the nineteenth century were very moral :D


As part of the Polish language lessons in high school, I had chosen to discuss the story written by me known Polish writer. I chose Fredro, my teacher had nothing against it, but as he learned the story I chose told me to change, I said, after you allowed me to choose any Aleksander Fredro story except erotica :D


A similar situation took place in the foreign language lessons, in my case, English. We had to translate from Polish to English i had chose a work of fiction. But the English language teacher, said that the literary work selected by me for the translation can not be obscene, I do not know why not, if everything has to be boring :D



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11 Jun 2014, 7:50 am

I just don't want anyone here getting in trouble.



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11 Jun 2014, 11:25 am

By the way, I wonder why the teachers in the schools, even those who teach in high schools do not like erotica :D



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15 Mar 2016, 10:19 am

pawelk1986 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Never heard of him, but I have read William Burrough's Naked Lunch, which is pretty obscene to the point that they tried to ban it in a progressive city like Boston years ago.


Strange, I heard that in the U.S. government can not prohibit the publication of books, even if it is disgusting, because of the American famous the 1st Amendment :D


I have a book called Something Unexpected, which is an Interracial Erotic Romance by Tressie Lockwood. I read the first chapter the night my book came in that very day, and it's obscene, but I still like it, thanks to the first amendment. :heart:


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