Taoism dictates that America needs both political parties

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01 Jul 2014, 4:13 am

In Taoist precepts two opposing forces unite to create everything. Yin Yang. Both forces are interdependent and form a cycle. Think of the body. Our bodies act as a vessel for our soul. Without the soul the body would be lifeless. Without the body the soul would be formless. So you get the idea.

Despite how much we think both political parties are working against each other they are paradoxically part of the fabric of America according to taoism. The conservative party's strength manifested in belief hard work, patriotism, love of the military and family. However those traits can also be seen as social darwinistic, jingoistic, and war hawking respectively as the flip side of the coin. Now the liberals' niceness is manifested in belief in equality, sharing the wealth, multiculturalism, peace with other nations and helping the disadvantaged. However that can be viewed as fostering laziness, stealing from hard workers, and cultivating a loser mentality as being flip sides of the same coin. However both parties moderate the other in a constant struggle until equilibrium is reached. Whatever you might say about conservatives being stone age thinkers or liberals lazy unpatriotic marxists I believe in the struggle between both forces of this continuum



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01 Jul 2014, 7:25 am

I'm not sure if this fits your intended topic, but America does not have two political parties. We have one. D or R, they serve the same masters and have a common agenda. They just favor different "small topics."

It's like being offered death by hanging or death by firing squad. It's not much of a choice. A true balance would be offering someone the option of death or life...freedom or servitude.



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01 Jul 2014, 8:50 am

The "opposing forces" are a multitude of selfish interests, and not in pursuit of the Taoist virtue of selflessness.

Economics:
Karl Marx (ism) = selfishly use government to protect your job and wages, take from those who have more
Adam Smith (ism) = pursue your own self-interest

Multiculturalism/Immigration:
"Right wing" = business donors want cheaper labor
"Left wing" = the immigrants become a dependency class that will vote for left wing social programs

War:
"Right wing" = support is military donors/military vets
"Left wing" = support is peace organizations


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01 Jul 2014, 11:09 am

i thought Taoism dictated that someone like Goku should beat the entire libertarian army and should be crowned president for a 4 year period as is usual in American politics. i guess its all a matter of interpretation.



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01 Jul 2014, 5:56 pm

We need two better political parties.



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02 Jul 2014, 6:57 am

So The GOP, is the Yin to the Democrat Yang?

I suppose that there is a certain logic to that.

That its the tension between the two ideologies that keeps democracy going. So we gotta have both parties.

You could put in more progressive terms: That one of the parties could become so outmoded that it dies out. But then the remaining party wouild split into opposing (but interdependent) Yin-Yang halves. But that would be drifting from Taoism, and into Heigelianism: thesis-antithesis, and synthesis. With the synthesis itsself spawning its own antithesis- repeating the cycle.