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14 Aug 2014, 10:04 am

I met a Super NT once. A friend and I were chowing at a Chinese restaurant, it'd been a long day, and there was a momentary pause in conversation as we were both lost in thought. Then a flying woman wearing a pink cape and matching boots smashed through the front windows and landed in the seat next to us. The letters "NT" were embroidered on her shirt. "Super Sarah is here!" she sang. "There will be no more awkward pauses in conversation!"

For the next 30 minutes, we just couldn't get a word in edgewise. The woman was a mouth with legs. Everyone in the cafe gathered around to hear her brilliant banter. The waitresses set down their trays and sat indian style in a little semi-circle on the floor to witness Sarah's verbal vomiting.

Then Super Sarah's Super NT wristwatch emitted a beeping sound. "I've gotta go..." she said, "there's a retirement home in desperate need of my mouthy magic!" She stuffed a few eggrolls into the pockets of her cape and flew off. The restaurant manager charged us for the broken window. It appeared on the credit bill as "boring conversation fee."



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14 Aug 2014, 10:07 am

Pretty clever :D



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14 Aug 2014, 10:21 am

eggheadjr wrote:
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Maybe being NT is a "spectrum disorder" LOL :lol:


In what way would it be a disorder? Also how do you mean NT....people who simply aren't autistic or people with typical neurology/brain functioning?

If it is the first I highly doubt not having autism is ever going to be considered a disorder of any kind. If its the second well then....if its the second than it just doesn't make sense.


Um... I was trying to be funny - guess it didn't work out. 8O


Or I have a tendency to take things literally and seriously where not necessary.


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14 Aug 2014, 10:23 am

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Being overly NT, actually, could become a disorder if it is displaced in the wrong areas.

If one is super-social, say, and does not want to be by his/herself, there's at least some pathology there.


I do not think there is 'overly NT' I mean considering neurotypical is the normal functioning brain if someone was overly social to the point it caused significant impairment or distress in their life then I am sure it could be considered a disorder.....however it would be outside of neurotypical.

I mean its not like the more social you are the more NT that means you are, its not exactly defined that way.


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14 Aug 2014, 10:27 am

I meant "exhibiting NT characteristics to an exaggerated degree," really.



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14 Aug 2014, 10:29 am

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My brother could be what you'd call "super NT". He is the exact opposite of me: he is very sociable, approaches people, can communicate and socialise with other people well, is seen as a leader by many others, is good at team work (he has intense football training too) and can socialise for hours on end. My mum is also like this but she is even better at understanding people and working out their intentions before they can make a move.


Sounds like an outgoing neurotypical individual....is it possible these invididuals seem like 'super NTs' to people on the spectrum because our lack of social skills and so if someone seems to not have any struggles in relation to interacting with others it seems like 'super NT' wheras to an NT they would just percieve them as an outgoing individual, nothing particularly super about them.

But lots of NTs can socialize for hours on end, are seen as leaders, good at teamwork....in fact that is exactly what they look for in job applications it would seem.


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14 Aug 2014, 10:33 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I meant "exhibiting NT characteristics to an exaggerated degree," really.


But then that wouldn't be neurotypical, every mental condition/disorder or whatever is actually normal behavior just taken to an extreme. So if they exibit a characteristic to an exageratted degree and it causes them trouble enough to be diagnosed with a disorder then I'd argue that individual is not actually NT.


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14 Aug 2014, 10:48 am

That's possible.

It depends upon one's definition of "NT." If it means merely "non-autistic," the definition is really too broad.

It's possible one could be "neurotypical" in the more restrictive sense (i.e., in the absence of a diagnosable neurological disorder) if the person has "exaggerated" NT characteristics; it's also possible that the person might not be NT at all, since there is a disorder present. I'd take it on a case-by-case basis.



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15 Aug 2014, 4:44 am

The concept of NT's being on a spectrum is interesting, perhaps super-NT's are really skilled self-monitors? Like being able to adjust to various social situations as some of you mentioned

http://www.outofservice.com/self-monitor-censor-test/



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15 Aug 2014, 5:01 am

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I do not see any reason why there should not be an NT spectrum.


There is an AS spectrum because of different levels of symptoms. NT's don't experience anything out of the ordinary (neurologically speaking) unless they have some other disorder, hence they aren't hyper sensitive to anything, don't have any trouble in particular coping with this or that. There is no such thing as profoundly NT or mild NT, high functioning or low functioning, there are just different types of people who are better at this or that, because them actually being disabled (that is, not just bad at something but dealing with chemical setbacks in the brain) at something is a non-issue. It's just different, that's all. Of course NT people can be just as interesting, I guess that's why typology and other forms of analytic psychology are fun, but that's a bit different from being on a spectrum in the clinical sense.


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15 Aug 2014, 8:09 am

Perhaps this is more about a spectrum of sociability or empathy or some combination of these things - like an EQ measure (which I never had much faith in).

I'm NT and a great networker (I am one of those 'super-connected nodes' but actually a little introverted and need my down time away from others. Though I also need time with people too.

My grandfather could have been a 'super NT' like you describe. He understood people. He LIKED people. People always liked him. He got genuine pleasure from making other people more comfortable. He knew how to put people at their ease. Perhaps unsurprisingly he was a salesman and a local politician and very active in his church (which bizarrely had a very fundamentalist and uncompromising world view)



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15 Aug 2014, 9:33 am

I'm technically neurotypical, so perhaps I am a subpar NT :lol: I do love the term NT though because before I would just say "people" when I was talking about the general human population. But counselors, Google, etc, would be like "WHITE people?" "BLACK people?" 8O Uh no, I mean "people" as in the innumerable individuals I've met that are all similar in a basic way. It makes sense that neurotypicals consist of 99% of the population because I would've bet my bottom dollar that the large majority of people were "different" from me.

Anyway, I don't really get the thread or the super NT thing. If you're talking about super extroverted people, I always think of talk show hosts. Examples include Oprah, Ellen, and Jimmy Fallon. These are people whose whole job is socializing and schmoozing with celebs and making sure everyone is laughing. Could never be me. I couldn't even pretend to be like that.



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15 Aug 2014, 12:44 pm

P192 wrote:
The concept of NT's being on a spectrum is interesting, perhaps super-NT's are really skilled self-monitors? Like being able to adjust to various social situations as some of you mentioned

http://www.outofservice.com/self-monitor-censor-test/


I would like to see documentation that most neurotypicals cannot adjust to various social situations, otherwise I am not buying that it is a super ability only some NTs have.


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15 Aug 2014, 3:04 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
I would like to see documentation that most neurotypicals cannot adjust to various social situations, otherwise I am not buying that it is a super ability only some NTs have.


I wouldn't say "various social situations", but I can say that most NTs cannot relate to or adjust to me.
They seem to demand that you (I) play their game instead of even considering meeting half-way.