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30 Aug 2014, 3:50 pm

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I would never reveal that I'm an aspie irl. Not even when I'm applying for a job in the future. I don't want some separate treatment. I had enough of it.
In some online games, I did so, and gladly, nothing changed.
I end up revealing it to a gifted teen from another country (Before she told me she is) who is probably understands me the most even tho we're not close as best friends. But the things I see and feel from her is almost mutual towards NT. Except, she WANTS to be a true NT, and I don't; yet it's good that we're both fine with that.
Then I revealed it to another NT girl online who is just 4 hrs away from my place; who funny enough suspected me that I'm the spectrum for a year and I end up confirming it. Just about twice or trice, she tells me about her encounters with her autie classmate.
And so on... No more than 6 people whom I know online knows I'm an aspie.

NOW FOR IRL!! !
Currently at my classes they would either; treat me like a child with a tone as if they're talking to a child; yes. If not, overestimating or patronizing me for being 'smart'. As I recall, when I enrolled at my current school, my mom mentioned things to them to the faculty. (Along with a repeated mention about me having above average IQ)
Yes, they talk with their normal voice to my peers, and not to me. I'm rather annoyed and quite feel insulted. I'm being constantly greeted; I don't know if they're just treating me because of things my mom/the faculty told them or I'm not unnoticeable enough to have any peace. Especially the fact that all I want is to sit somewhere comfortable. Then in the next second one of them will ask me the usual rhetorical questions like 'How are you' x.x
And if I speak up, they will either all go quiet as if they're excited to hear some child's cutesy words; or ignore it which is when I'm mostly serious.
They're fine with my answers 'Yes' or "No' or short answers otherwise. But apparently NOT when I'm serious as if they don't want to know.
(And half the time at the serious part is when I'm ranting of how I FEEL and what I'm THINKING; which is their usual question) When I'm serious, they mostly joke about it. A tagalog-like phase saying 'My nose is bleeding/My head is overheating' which translates roughly as 'Too deep/Too much info' :?

I really feel like ranting anytime soon. :(

people have done that to me too. sometimes ive been told its in my head but the more i hear people on sites like this say its happened to them to so i really dont think it is. you should demand the respect you deserve. people think im weird and im fine with that because i probably am but you should never let people talk down to you that way. they should treat you the same as anyone else.



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30 Aug 2014, 5:22 pm

the-comander wrote:
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I would never reveal that I'm an aspie irl. Not even when I'm applying for a job in the future. I don't want some separate treatment. I had enough of it.
In some online games, I did so, and gladly, nothing changed.
I end up revealing it to a gifted teen from another country (Before she told me she is) who is probably understands me the most even tho we're not close as best friends. But the things I see and feel from her is almost mutual towards NT. Except, she WANTS to be a true NT, and I don't; yet it's good that we're both fine with that.
Then I revealed it to another NT girl online who is just 4 hrs away from my place; who funny enough suspected me that I'm the spectrum for a year and I end up confirming it. Just about twice or trice, she tells me about her encounters with her autie classmate.
And so on... No more than 6 people whom I know online knows I'm an aspie.

NOW FOR IRL!! !
Currently at my classes they would either; treat me like a child with a tone as if they're talking to a child; yes. If not, overestimating or patronizing me for being 'smart'. As I recall, when I enrolled at my current school, my mom mentioned things to them to the faculty. (Along with a repeated mention about me having above average IQ)
Yes, they talk with their normal voice to my peers, and not to me. I'm rather annoyed and quite feel insulted. I'm being constantly greeted; I don't know if they're just treating me because of things my mom/the faculty told them or I'm not unnoticeable enough to have any peace. Especially the fact that all I want is to sit somewhere comfortable. Then in the next second one of them will ask me the usual rhetorical questions like 'How are you' x.x
And if I speak up, they will either all go quiet as if they're excited to hear some child's cutesy words; or ignore it which is when I'm mostly serious.
They're fine with my answers 'Yes' or "No' or short answers otherwise. But apparently NOT when I'm serious as if they don't want to know.
(And half the time at the serious part is when I'm ranting of how I FEEL and what I'm THINKING; which is their usual question) When I'm serious, they mostly joke about it. A tagalog-like phase saying 'My nose is bleeding/My head is overheating' which translates roughly as 'Too deep/Too much info' :?

I really feel like ranting anytime soon. :(


people have done that to me too. sometimes ive been told its in my head but the more i hear people on sites like this say its happened to them to so i really dont think it is. you should demand the respect you deserve. people think im weird and im fine with that because i probably am but you should never let people talk down to you that way. they should treat you the same as anyone else.


I did so whenever I'm serious. I've been asking them for a year in different ways, and nothing. All of those, same outcome. If this still keeps up, I'm moving out of that school this year after graduation (that is if I still make it until the final sem due to financial issues), get another course and pray that my mom won't tell things that would spread through the student's ears.
Or hopefully that a certain school where there's no former batchmates of mine had been there. But then again, NTs likes to spread 'stuffs'; it's how I never trust them.
I prefer them to leave me alone instead of talking to me like that everyday.


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30 Aug 2014, 6:52 pm

Edna3362 wrote:
the-comander wrote:
Edna3362 wrote:
I would never reveal that I'm an aspie irl. Not even when I'm applying for a job in the future. I don't want some separate treatment. I had enough of it.
In some online games, I did so, and gladly, nothing changed.
I end up revealing it to a gifted teen from another country (Before she told me she is) who is probably understands me the most even tho we're not close as best friends. But the things I see and feel from her is almost mutual towards NT. Except, she WANTS to be a true NT, and I don't; yet it's good that we're both fine with that.
Then I revealed it to another NT girl online who is just 4 hrs away from my place; who funny enough suspected me that I'm the spectrum for a year and I end up confirming it. Just about twice or trice, she tells me about her encounters with her autie classmate.
And so on... No more than 6 people whom I know online knows I'm an aspie.

NOW FOR IRL!! !
Currently at my classes they would either; treat me like a child with a tone as if they're talking to a child; yes. If not, overestimating or patronizing me for being 'smart'. As I recall, when I enrolled at my current school, my mom mentioned things to them to the faculty. (Along with a repeated mention about me having above average IQ)
Yes, they talk with their normal voice to my peers, and not to me. I'm rather annoyed and quite feel insulted. I'm being constantly greeted; I don't know if they're just treating me because of things my mom/the faculty told them or I'm not unnoticeable enough to have any peace. Especially the fact that all I want is to sit somewhere comfortable. Then in the next second one of them will ask me the usual rhetorical questions like 'How are you' x.x
And if I speak up, they will either all go quiet as if they're excited to hear some child's cutesy words; or ignore it which is when I'm mostly serious.
They're fine with my answers 'Yes' or "No' or short answers otherwise. But apparently NOT when I'm serious as if they don't want to know.
(And half the time at the serious part is when I'm ranting of how I FEEL and what I'm THINKING; which is their usual question) When I'm serious, they mostly joke about it. A tagalog-like phase saying 'My nose is bleeding/My head is overheating' which translates roughly as 'Too deep/Too much info' :?

I really feel like ranting anytime soon. :(


people have done that to me too. sometimes ive been told its in my head but the more i hear people on sites like this say its happened to them to so i really dont think it is. you should demand the respect you deserve. people think im weird and im fine with that because i probably am but you should never let people talk down to you that way. they should treat you the same as anyone else.


I did so whenever I'm serious. I've been asking them for a year in different ways, and nothing. All of those, same outcome. If this still keeps up, I'm moving out of that school this year after graduation (that is if I still make it until the final sem due to financial issues), get another course and pray that my mom won't tell things that would spread through the student's ears.
Or hopefully that a certain school where there's no former batchmates of mine had been there. But then again, NTs likes to spread 'stuffs'; it's how I never trust them.
I prefer them to leave me alone instead of talking to me like that everyday.

just dont put up with it, if they keep doing it then stop talking to them.



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30 Aug 2014, 10:40 pm

(From someone not diagnosed on the spectrum, but was referred to a specialist today because of what I told my new therapist)

In college
I was either condescended upon because of my social awkwardness and/or intensity in wanting to pursue certain goals professors didn't think were "right" for me, or patronized out the wuh-zoo. I think those who patronized me where only doing so to say "Oh, look how politically correct I am!"

I remember in my research methods class we were assigned descriptive studies to complete at the end of the semester. I chose "dolphin laterality" (You weren't even going to the aquatic park to watch the dolphins in person. You were coding videos that probably were already coded...) but my professor emailed me back saying I was going to code children's clothing for age-inappropriate sexuality. She said in the email that it was "for the greater good." I remember feeling so enraged that the girl who was assigned the project on dolphin laterality pretty much took a sh_t on it, falling behind, faking personal emergencies for assignment and draft extensions (I was friends with her on FB and did spot some inconsistencies), and ultimately getting a C as her final grade. I was livid, and was sure to let everyone I knew of how wrong it was. The student was the professor's neighbor and they went to the same church, but I think it's wrong that she got a project she showed herself incapable of completing. I never did have a good relationship with that department at college anyway...

In a lot of ways I felt like I was a pet to some people so they could get their egos fed by my coming to them for advice and mentorship. They didn't sincerely care about me but only said nice things because I wasn't a particularly liked student by some faculty and this was probably a way to get me to stop complaining.

At jobs:

Bewilderment at my behaviors and occasional irritability, but because I've consistently been a good employee, I've never been terminated. I was a waitress and blew up at someone who accused me of stealing money off the other waitresses' tables, but even after the things I called her in front of all the guests, my boss called me up asking me to please come back and that I can still keep my job. I said no because she still worked there. He asked me at one point if I had Asperger's and I told him I didn't think so, but he told me if there is a time when I'm just too overwhelmed by the noise and people in general, to just let him know and I can chop vegetables in the back. He then joked that I was some "savant" for no reason, and I was annoyed with him frequently.

My boss suggested I at least talk to a counselor to sort some baggage out. She comments often over my "useful ability to ferret and memorize crucial information." Sometimes she would drive to some meetings with me in the car and often ask, "Are you anxious? Does the way I brake make you anxious?" No, it doesn't...



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30 Aug 2014, 10:48 pm

I had a meeting with her yesterday (all the students did) and she said that I surprised her. I'm really good at school (just have to remember to do all my work!!) and she thought I was going to be a bad student (not her exact words, but pretty much). I guess she expected me to be unresponsive or academically challenged, but I like to talk in this class and I'm pretty good at it! I guess I showed her wrong. Just because I'm socially inept, doesn't mean I'm academically inept.



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02 Sep 2014, 2:17 pm

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Now that....you have to ask Vicky :D
i will


Hello, I have been a nudist for many years, and actually lived at a club for over 2 years. [for some people, clothes HURT]

For most of those years I was accepted. In the last few years there have been a group of people that want the club to be used only by wealthy people. This has caused extreme discord. Since we are a community, almost a huge nekkid family, things became increasingly dysfunctional. When a families dysfunction gets bad enough, scapegoats are often chosen[particularly ones who are differrent than the others anyway,but also refuse to be a part of the gossip and hatred [ there was even talk of "accidents" happening to members on opposing sides.] So, i was back at the place 3 days after my mastectomy. A vicous rumor started that I was faking breast cancer, spread mostly by people I cared for a lot.

Under norma lcircumstances, these rumors would never have been tolerated,let alone believed, BUT I have found that when NTs' are in groups of dysfunction anything is possible.

believed I would have so much support. Didn't happen, As a matter of fact,things got much worse.

The rate of attempted suicide is 28 times higher for Autistics than for NTs'. I had NEVER felt suicidal until everything [ and I have told you maybe 1%] happened. Shortly after experiencing what suicidal really felt like, I became an Autistic activist.



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02 Sep 2014, 2:20 pm

Hi Vicky :wink:



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02 Sep 2014, 2:23 pm

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the-comander wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Now that....you have to ask Vicky :D
i will


Hello, I have been a nudist for many years, and actually lived at a club for over 2 years. [for some people, clothes HURT]

For most of those years I was accepted. In the last few years there have been a group of people that want the club to be used only by wealthy people. This has caused extreme discord. Since we are a community, almost a huge nekkid family, things became increasingly dysfunctional. When a families dysfunction gets bad enough, scapegoats are often chosen[particularly ones who are differrent than the others anyway,but also refuse to be a part of the gossip and hatred [ there was even talk of "accidents" happening to members on opposing sides.] So, i was back at the place 3 days after my mastectomy. A vicous rumor started that I was faking breast cancer, spread mostly by people I cared for a lot.

Under norma lcircumstances, these rumors would never have been tolerated,let alone believed, BUT I have found that when NTs' are in groups of dysfunction anything is possible.

believed I would have so much support. Didn't happen, As a matter of fact,things got much worse.

The rate of attempted suicide is 28 times higher for Autistics than for NTs'. I had NEVER felt suicidal until everything [ and I have told you maybe 1%] happened. Shortly after experiencing what suicidal really felt like, I became an Autistic activist.

huh............well thats an intresting story you have there. you should write a biography. a book about your life strugles and trying to rise past your disability while seaking exsptence burring a war between opossing factions of nudists would probably sell pretty well.
at the very least autism, breast cancer, murder,and warring clans of nudists: a biography of my life would certianly catch peoples attention



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02 Sep 2014, 2:46 pm

you seem not to believe me. AutHaven took place at the ranch. People who went to Authaven saw my scarred chest. Kraftie has seen pictures of me working there. My 20 year old son [and he is the one who has overcome huge obstacles] is closing on a home in Pueblo on the 15th, which will be the first in our intentional Autistic community within a pre-existing community. We are also working on Autistic entrepeneurship and helping to build on some land in NM that will afford Autistic employment.

So, why are you so nasty?



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02 Sep 2014, 3:03 pm

I do not get condescended to... (well... not by NTs... I only get that from people whit my condition)... but that might have something to do with the fact that I am 6'9" (over two meters) tall...


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02 Sep 2014, 3:07 pm

People only speak nice to me when they have found a way to use me otherwise i'm always ignored when when it comes to communicating.


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02 Sep 2014, 3:56 pm

vickygleitz wrote:
you seem not to believe me. AutHaven took place at the ranch. People who went to Authaven saw my scarred chest. Kraftie has seen pictures of me working there. My 20 year old son [and he is the one who has overcome huge obstacles] is closing on a home in Pueblo on the 15th, which will be the first in our intentional Autistic community within a pre-existing community. We are also working on Autistic entrepeneurship and helping to build on some land in NM that will afford Autistic employment.

So, why are you so nasty?

sorry that i offended you madam, just seems a little far fetched. also im not sure how we got from warring clans of nudists to suicide to autism activist..



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02 Sep 2014, 4:36 pm

the-comander wrote:
vickygleitz wrote:
you seem not to believe me. AutHaven took place at the ranch. People who went to Authaven saw my scarred chest. Kraftie has seen pictures of me working there. My 20 year old son [and he is the one who has overcome huge obstacles] is closing on a home in Pueblo on the 15th, which will be the first in our intentional Autistic community within a pre-existing community. We are also working on Autistic entrepeneurship and helping to build on some land in NM that will afford Autistic employment.

So, why are you so nasty?

sorry that i offended you madam, just seems a little far fetched. also im not sure how we got from warring clans of nudists to suicide to autism activist..


That's easy... our people seem to be magnets for weirdness... and you will find that most of us have storied lives... we are able and willing to take risks that many will not... and we tend to do things all the way or not at all...


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02 Sep 2014, 4:41 pm

Feralucce wrote:
the-comander wrote:
vickygleitz wrote:
you seem not to believe me. AutHaven took place at the ranch. People who went to Authaven saw my scarred chest. Kraftie has seen pictures of me working there. My 20 year old son [and he is the one who has overcome huge obstacles] is closing on a home in Pueblo on the 15th, which will be the first in our intentional Autistic community within a pre-existing community. We are also working on Autistic entrepeneurship and helping to build on some land in NM that will afford Autistic employment.

So, why are you so nasty?

sorry that i offended you madam, just seems a little far fetched. also im not sure how we got from warring clans of nudists to suicide to autism activist..


That's easy... our people seem to be magnets for weirdness... and you will find that most of us have storied lives... we are able and willing to take risks that many will not... and we tend to do things all the way or not at all...

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02 Sep 2014, 4:51 pm

I believe Vicky 100 percent, if not more!